Daughter has not been a problem child, diagnosed as a highly sensitive personaity when small I have always known that crowds, noise bother her. Husband has been military and she has to start several different schools. Our last move was the hardest, as a 6th grader coming out of a private school into public. She is now 7th garde. The hair, clothes and make-up have all changed. She says she longer wants to be know as the shy kid and has gone to doing things she knows is wrong. She was picked up by police for shoplifting with a friend and because of it she had to do community service and 2 months counseling. She started a MySpace page saying she was 19 which attracted boys who were wanting her for things so we closed the acct. Recently she pierced her own ears after we told her she could not have a second piercing. She did this while I was teaching piano in the studio attached to the house so now she has to come and sit in the studio while I am in lessons. I read her diary recently and in it she blames me for everything and says she hates me. She has 2 half brothers who do not contact the family which she blames on me and says in her diary how much she loves her brothers, she doesn't even know them. One of boys' wives is expecting which my daughter recently found out thru an older sister and again my daughter blamed me, saying I was withholding info from her. I am not withholding. I knew but not because stepson told me, he did tell his dad so I don't get how I was the one who was supposed to tell her, rather than her dad or the brother she loves dearly, and why would she blame me? I don't get it. When I found out about the piercings I made her take the earrings, told her that she would not put another earring in, told her what she did was stupid as she could have easily got an infection in her ears. In her diary she wrote that I told hr she was stupid, I did no such thing. She takes everything and twists it up to blame me rather than seeing her own actions as wrong or seeing that maybe someone else needed to be responsible for whatever instead of me. I have told my husband he needs to be more involved, he is her buddy and he does get on her case but it does seem she is seeking his attention and I get the feeling she wants more time with him. I try to do things with her that I think she would enjoy like taking her out to her favorite restuarant, going shopping and getting her hair done but I don't think she recognizes I am doing these things for her to spend time with her. I am at a losss as to what I should do. Any help would be appreciated.
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RobinM
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Re: 12 year old Daughter self-pirecing, being hateful
Jun 14, 2011 1:22 PM
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Hi again AVR1962, I'm sorry I had to cut that last comment off so abruptly. My next comment is about her blaming everything on you; I completely understand where your coming from and I know how heart breaking having your children do this to you is. My 12 year old also blames me for pretty much everything that goes wrong or turns out bad in his life. I have raised Kennedy and his 2 siblings on my own without help from their dad for about 7 years now (not that I was getting any help from their father when we were together so let's just say 12 years,LOL). Even on the weekends and holidays when sleepovers and vacations occur, I have not spent a night without at least one of my children since I was 16 years old! After all that time, effort, care, and love, hearing him blame me for his unhappiness is like a saw cutting me into tiny pieces. The thing is, our kids know exactly how much we love them and want nothing more than their happiness, they use these kinds of phrases because during the cery first time they uttered the words to us, we gave them some kind of reaction over them. You have to try to not let her cruel statements hurt you so badly and make you feel so useful. She is most likely feeling rebellious and possibly even lonely and in that she says these things to you and you react to her. It doesn't make any difference if you react possitively by telling her "no baby, I love you, I only want you to be happy", or if you react negatively by screaming and yelling or by feeling so bad that she now can convince you to take her anywhere, buy her anything, and do just about anything else you think will make her happy and realize that you truly do love her. The positive reaction is definetly what I suggest, just remind her frequently just how much you love her by telling her often, and by showing her as well. Whether you like it or not, she has other family, whether they are close or not, she loves them and you need to show her you care about her feelings or she will never trust you. I agree that she and her step-dad should spend time together, and that you should talk with him about all of this and make him realize the severity. I do not believe he should judt be all buddy buddy with her to get her todo what you want or to get information out of her. She needs to see that the two of you solve things together along with her as a family, and in time that will affect some of her behavior. I personally do not believe the statement that you cannot be friends with your children as well as being their parent, you absolutely can, as long as they understand that you are still the authority and they have to follow your rules. You have to have some form of close/friend like relationship with them for them to ever trust being able to come to you and talk to you. As to your last comment about spending time with her; she needs to know that your spending time with her for the right reasons. You have to want to spend time with her just because she is your daughter and you enjoy her company, not to try to change something you feel she is doing wrong. Spending time as a family with your children is not going to guarantee that they never misbehave or get into trouble in their life. It simply shows them you love them and makes them think twice about misbehaving, but it certainly is no guarantee. Also, you can't force this time on her. Set a day each week and tell her the week before that you are going to spend time together a certain day for a specific amount of time. It doesn't matter if you need to change the day and time every week, as long as she knows way before the actual day to count on it and not make other plans, and that your doing it every week from now on no matter how much she doesn't want too. It will take a few weeks, but pretty soon it will just become habit and she will start to change her attitude about it. Just make sure you respect her life and plans enough to give her enough advance warning of the day of the week and the time frame she should plan on. Trust me, your daughter recognizes the things you are doing for her and the time you are spending with her, she may just have the wrong idea about your intentions, and/or she doesn't want to show you any emotion about it because right now she feels like she has caused you so much stress, and is scaring you so badly with her behavior that she feels she has the upper hand in the relationship. Showing her gratitude in her mind may cause her to loose some of that power. I certainly don't have all of the answers. I myself am dealing with a suicidal, oversexual, video gamer, online chatter 12 year old who thinks he is bi-sexual, and deserves more respect and freedom. I am having trouble too. I just wanted to share the things I have learned and try to help in any way I can. I wish you luck, Robin
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Re: 12 year old Daughter self-pirecing, being hateful
Jun 14, 2011 12:28 PM
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Hey AVR1962, I saw your post and I am having a similar sort of problem with my child, though it's my son, but he is also 12 years old. His name is Kennedy. He was diagnosed with High-Functioning Autism (called Aspberger's Syndrome, but there are all different types of this condition) He has a major sensitivity to touch, light, and loud sounds. He also has minor social problems where he doesn't necessarily understand the rules of proper communication or how to correctly react to certain jokes and other things like sarcasm. He has been in a private school that has a special unit for kids with autism. He is in a class known as a cluster class (which is where there are no more than 10 children in the class, and they all have very similar forms if not the same form of Autism). Kennedy just finished the 6th grade and in two months will be going on to middle school, where they have told me he will have some support, but it will be nothing like what he is used to. Basically he will be mostly on his own. He has been extremely interested in the Emo culture for a while now, and he constantly talks about death and sex. He attempted suicide 2 years ago when he was diagnosed with Autism by swallowing a whole bottle of my prescription cortisone (which is a medication for addisson's disease) It is a man made form of adrenaline, because my body does not produce it and it would have caused a slew of unbearable side affects before it would kill him. The only reason he hasn't died his hair black is because I have strictly forbidden it and monitor everything he buys, he has also not began wearing all black because I won't buy enough all black clothes for him that he would be able to put together an entire black outfit. Otherwise, I am positive he would have done both of those things by now. There is so much more to the story, but because I have come across a few helpful tricks I want to share those with you. First, about your daughter's diary; Does she know that you read it? If she does, she could be using it as a way to hurt you or manipulate you into thinking your loosing her. If she doesn't know it would be my personal suggestion to STOP reading it at all before she finds out. I am an artist/writer, and I also teach a college English course. This does not make me an expert in parenting, but I can tell you first hand the importance and influence writing has on people (young and old). Writing is a way to express the thoughts and feeling that you feel you cannot share with anybody else. It provides a place to think about your dreams and desires, and helps you to feel the relief sensation of sharing that secret that has been weighing on you or going over an argument or discussion and realizing what you may have done right or wrong and helps you to come up with ways to approach the situation better next time, or how to move to the next step in a situation etc...From a very early age my mother taught me to write in a journal and promised me that she would never invade my personal thoughts by reading my journal. That it was a safe place for me to learn things and express things. My father got re-married when I was 13 and during a summer break when I was visiting my mother I had left my journal at home and my step-mother found it and read it. When I found out I felt so completely betrayed. I felt that I could never trust anyone again. This incidence affected me for the rest of my teenage years and many of my adult years as well. If you think your daughter is bad now, wait till she finds out you have betrayed her personal private thoughts. It's such a better idea to talk to her. She is your daughter, you know how to tell when she is lying to you, call her on her lies in a compassionate way and tell her your not there to fight or punish her, you just need the information so you know how to make her happy again. If she refuses, do not stop trying every chance you get. About her brothers; My kids also have a brother. He is their half brother, he is 13 and he lives in Texas, we live in Utah. They have only met him once before for only three days and they were so young they barely remember it if at all, they hardly ever talk to him on the phone, but the frequently express how much they love him to me and everyone else. Whether your daughter knows her brothers or not, they are still her brothers and she feels that connection, strongly! If they do not contact her, you should be the first one to figure out a way to get their contact info and present it to her. Whether you understand the relationship or not, you should show her that you encourage it and that you are happy to have a daughter who has such a big heart. From your comment I came to the conclusion that her biological father and you are no longer together and that you are re-married, is that correct? This next statement has to do with that; I don't know how often she has contact with her biological father, but in my experience that can have alot to do with specific behaviors. Even if they have constant contact with another adult male like a step-father or grandfather. It is extremely possible that although she loves these brother's dearly she does not have much contact with them and it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for her brother to not call her and tell her he is having a baby. She probably feels the same way about her dad. On the other hand, she see's you everyday, you know how important her brother is to her, you knew about the pregnancy, and you did not make sure that she found out from her brother or father which makes her believe in her in her mind that you knew she didn't have that information, you yourself certainly had it, but don't care enough about her feelings for her brother to have told her the news yourself. As dramatic a conclusion and her reaction may have been, it definitely makes sense and I can certainly see where she is coming from and why she says you were withholding information. If you look at it from her perspective, can you understand too? Maybe someone else was in fact responsible for telling her, but they didn't, and as her mother that then makes it your responsibility. About the I'm stupid comment; You did the right thing by telling her that shee could have gotten a serious infection and piercing her ears herself was not particularly a good idea, but in your comment you say that your specific words were (told her what she did was stupid), now as an adult, I certainly understand why you would say that, but what you have to remember is that as smart as she may be, she is still only 12. Add to that the fact that her body is changing along with it's chemicals making her behave all different kinds of ways in a matter of seconds sometimes. The combination of her age, physical change, and the fact that kids that age just plain over dramatize, I can understand why she would take your comment, pick out that specific word and think you were calling her personally stupid instead of her action stupid. She physically and mentally cannot see the difference yet, so I would suggest that you try to be very careful and clear with your statements and word choice. I have more advice/tips/suggestions for you, but have to step away at the moment, so scroll down if you would like to read the rest of my reply to you.
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AVR1962
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12 year old Daughter self-pirecing, being hateful
Apr 25, 2009 3:31 AM
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Daughter has not been a problem child, diagnosed as a highly sensitive personaity when small I have always known that crowds, noise bother her. Husband has been military and she has to start several different schools. Our last move was the hardest, as a 6th grader coming out of a private school into public. She is now 7th garde. The hair, clothes and make-up have all changed. She says she longer wants to be know as the shy kid and has gone to doing things she knows is wrong. She was picked up by police for shoplifting with a friend and because of it she had to do community service and 2 months counseling. She started a MySpace page saying she was 19 which attracted boys who were wanting her for things so we closed the acct. Recently she pierced her own ears after we told her she could not have a second piercing. She did this while I was teaching piano in the studio attached to the house so now she has to come and sit in the studio while I am in lessons. I read her diary recently and in it she blames me for everything and says she hates me. She has 2 half brothers who do not contact the family which she blames on me and says in her diary how much she loves her brothers, she doesn't even know them. One of boys' wives is expecting which my daughter recently found out thru an older sister and again my daughter blamed me, saying I was withholding info from her. I am not withholding. I knew but not because stepson told me, he did tell his dad so I don't get how I was the one who was supposed to tell her, rather than her dad or the brother she loves dearly, and why would she blame me? I don't get it. When I found out about the piercings I made her take the earrings, told her that she would not put another earring in, told her what she did was stupid as she could have easily got an infection in her ears. In her diary she wrote that I told hr she was stupid, I did no such thing. She takes everything and twists it up to blame me rather than seeing her own actions as wrong or seeing that maybe someone else needed to be responsible for whatever instead of me. I have told my husband he needs to be more involved, he is her buddy and he does get on her case but it does seem she is seeking his attention and I get the feeling she wants more time with him. I try to do things with her that I think she would enjoy like taking her out to her favorite restuarant, going shopping and getting her hair done but I don't think she recognizes I am doing these things for her to spend time with her. I am at a losss as to what I should do. Any help would be appreciated.
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