i wonder

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i have complained over and over about a fake hi5 profile comment both here and hi5 but all you people say is i will forward it
or we will look into it and see what we can do about it.why can hi5 just do something reasonable and get rid of all the abuse in its ste?and for blog safety-you guys should be helping US out and not sau=ying that you will tell the hi5 team.they work hand in hand with you so push them harder to get rid of these impersonators and this internet abuse.
Last Post Jul 5, 2007 12:21 PM by: Anne
Anne
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Re: i wonder

Jul 5, 2007 12:21 PM
babyface, I don't think anyone can answer your question about what can be done when a social site is based in one country and complaints come from another country. Since a social site isn't even legally required to delete an imposter profile at the request of a victim's parent in the US, much less any other country. And schools and law enforcement in the US have barely begun to deal with cyberbullying. I doubt they're very far ahead of their counterparts in other countries, if at all, and they're just as busy with regular disciplinary and legal issues as they always have been. Schools and police in countries where mobile-phone version of bullying has been occurring for some time are way ahead of us (here, kids' texting has only just begun taking off).

Some sites are showing more corporate responsibility than others, which at this moment is the only real protection for users (besides their own good sense about giving others access to their photos and personal info and their own social skills), and it's probably coming down to users needing to figure out which sites' customer-service departments are more responsible before they set up their accounts. In short, we all do have a real challenge on our hands - social networkers of all ages, as well as the parents of the younger ones, educators, law enforcement, and everybody else affected by the social Web.

Having said all that, send the URL of the offending Hi5 profile to admin@blogsafety.com (plus a bit about the problem and what you're requesting), and we'll pass it along to our contact). Good luck,
Anne
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babyface
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Re: i wonder

Jul 5, 2007 1:37 AM
but Anne this has taken me now a whole year complainng of the profile.alot of harm has been done.so what happens to us who are not in USA and cannot file complaint to the police directly since they dont deal with internet issues here?what do we do in such a caase?
we cant just sit back and say hey let it be.as for the profile i have been complaingn about,i aint the only one who filed a report about it.around 15 people all over the world-friends of mine who know me filed the reports about abuse on hi5 too complaining of that same profile,but all in all nothing has been done.
okay if they cant deleat the profile then let the hi5 team block the photos because thats all thats bringing the problems here.let them block all the photos on that particular profile and they can leave the profile without any photos i dont care.i just need the photos blocked or automatically removed-they can do it.they do it when you put up pornographic content or abusive ones.in this case they are also abusive to us.just tell them to block the photos them of that profile and to deny them the right of putin up photos and they can leave the profile as it is with the other stuff but without the photos
Anne
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Re: i wonder

Jun 25, 2007 12:28 PM
babyface, just like the real world, the social Web is a complex place and what makes fixing problems even more complicated on the Web is the anonymity of it. It's impossible for anyone except the people involved in a situation to know who anyone really is or if what they're saying is true. When arguments happen in social-networking sites it's a little like when they happen on the phone, except that they're much more public so the embarrassment or damage to individuals goes up. But, as with the phone company, the people arguing with each other know they can't call the phone company to resolve the argument. One can change their number or go to a lawyer and get a restraining order, but the phone company isn't responsible and doesn't get involved. I don't know about the situation in other countries, but American law and courts so far have deemed Internet service providers to be like phone companies in that way.

That's not to say many social-networking sites aren't deleting imposter profiles, but they also have to protect people's right of free speech, which "complicates" thing further. They can't simply delete a profile if someone complains about it. The person has to prove he or she is the person being victimized, show how she's being harassed and show how the site's terms of service are being violated. Otherwise, so often, as they say in civil courts, it's very often a he said, she said situation - hard to know who's in the wrong.

One example involved YouTube. A video of girl being beaten up by 3 other girls was posted, and it really looked like she was being hurt. What apparently really happened, according to news reports (but it took parents, school officials, and law enforcement people at least a month to figure it out) was that the incident was staged. The "victim's" boyfriend did the videotaping, and the whole thing was staged for posting on YouTube. I don't know if that's the final word on that incident (that occurred late last year on Long Island, N.Y.), but you get the picture. As far as just getting rid of all the abuse, that would be great, but we haven't figured out how to do that in real life either, and the Internet is just a reflection of the offline world, I think. Thanks for posting
Anne
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babyface
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i wonder

Jun 24, 2007 10:56 PM
i have complained over and over about a fake hi5 profile comment both here and hi5 but all you people say is i will forward it
or we will look into it and see what we can do about it.why can hi5 just do something reasonable and get rid of all the abuse in its ste?and for blog safety-you guys should be helping US out and not sau=ying that you will tell the hi5 team.they work hand in hand with you so push them harder to get rid of these impersonators and this internet abuse.