please someone help me!!!! i have a 14 13 and 11 year old girls. things are fine between my 2 youngest but my oldest is a different story. i cant tell her anything that she doesn't blow up at me. when that happens i get upset and it goes down hill from there, what should i do please help
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Tulasc
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Nov 17, 2010 11:57 AM
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I'm envious of those who can still talk to their daughters...just to be able to hear their voice. Be glad. I'm not so lucky. Today is not a good day. Days like this are when I contemplate ending it all. I can't take her shutting me and my husband out any longer. It's a sickening feeling. A sense of hopelessness that I wish on no one. She won't have ANYTHING to do with us. God, it breaks my heart. I hear she's happy as a clam with her life...a new baby on the way...life for her is fantastic. Or...so I hear. She's active in church, her f-i-l the minister, and she has them all convinced she's Betty Crocker/Susie Homemaker. We are her 'secret'. Her 'sin'. She does not honor her mother or father. She bears false witness about us. She stands in judgment of others...but never of her behavior. I can't believe the hypocrisy. It makes me question why God allows this. I know it ain't over til its over....but why does he allow her to continue this charade all while fronting something different in church? Why does he not pop her on the head and say, "Listen to me! What are you doing?!" I feel like its because I don't matter. I'm not significant enough in anyone's life to be treated properly. It would be different if I had done something...but she just hates us to be hating us. I don't know how much more I can take........
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been there and back
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(506 of 792)
Nov 16, 2010 6:21 AM
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I have often wondered why me in all the years that have passed. My problem with my daughter started when she was 14. Like the rest of you we went through it all. After so many years of this and that, drugs, jail, not hearing from her I have to share this little blessing. My daughter is now 37 and doing fine. I have always been there for her thru thick and thin. Wondering when will it end! Last year at this time she was arrested with her boy friend for meth or trying to purchase things to make it. She called me from jail and all she could say through tears and crying is, "MOM!! PLEASE DON"T HATE ME!!! THATS ALL I ASK IS PLEASE DON"T HATE ME"! Well my heart broke because of couse I could never hate her. Just thinking about that call brings tears to my eyes. I looked for help from every where and all I could find was let it go...close the door...do not help... So I didn't help her with bail...she sat in jail for about one month...her boy friend about two months...his family turned thier backs on him. I did keep the lines open for her to call if she needed to talk. Well she called every day. When they both got out they were on the streets and trying very hard to get thier lives together. Not much success, no where to shower or sleep, no phone for a call for jobs. So here is the blessing for me. I just couldn't leave it at that. I looked on craigs list for a very cheap apt. I found one for $250.00 a month bills paid. I told my daughter the next time she called to check it out. Well she jumped on it. I told them both that I would pay the first months rent and then it was up to them to make it. Well it has been a year and her boy friend has had the same job for all this time. She has been taking care of and elderly neighbor for all this time. They are still clean from drugs still in the same apt. and saving money to buy a house. All I know is that we all take it one day at a time and from time to time we all need help emotionally or physically. The other day her boy friend said to us, "I just can't believe that you guy's have forgiven me and helped me when I was way down". He asked my husband if he could call him dad. He said he is the first person that ever cared enough to help and he takes all the advise my husband offers. My daughter thanks us every time we talk. We are blessed but it took a long, long time. Never give up!!!
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tampa, fl
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(505 of 792)
Nov 15, 2010 9:16 PM
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Okie, In short we should not let them control our feelings. It enables and empowers them. The example my Dr. used was the Movie "The Blog" the more you put water on the Blog the larger it got. He went over different ways to respond when my daughter was pushing my buttons. All this is easier said than done. I think the best help in dealing with this is living my life, doing things I enjoy with my husband and friends. I liked what one of the writers said about taking a trip and spending the money on enjoying herself. As hard as it is I think the message we need to send our daughters is we can live our life with out them. We are not going to be treated with disrespect. I found that the more I ignore and do not give in to my daughters threats and childish behavior the better it really makes me feel. The only problem is that it escalates her bad behavior. I also make sure I send her a text once a week to tell her I love her and the baby. I make no other comment and I do not engage.
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OKIE IN OK
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Nov 15, 2010 3:39 PM
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Lia. T S.......Your story is not new to us. The raw emotions are horrible to deal with. Read our blogs and know you aren't alone. Everyone says it will get better. I do know the pain does get easier to deal with. You have to find your coping mechanism and hang with it. One thing for sure you have to grow a second layer of skin because they will not be guilted in to making it easier on you and when you show your pain they despise it and feed on it like a mad dog in a meat house. It is exhausting and consuming if you allow it to be. I think the lying and manipulation is part of teenage defiance and rebellion, the cold looks are frightening. As far as the abuse, that is your choice to allow it or not. Just pick your battles wisely and never threaten what you won't back up. Love n prayers to you.
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Lia A. T S
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(503 of 792)
Nov 15, 2010 2:28 PM
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Well, I'm new to the site and I guess the Topic says it all so, here's my issue... My daughter really Hates me, anyone can call it the Rebellion stage of my 17 year old you know, that phase they claim they go through, when she looks at me I see no love her eyes are empty just nothing there, kinda freaky, she lies to me constantly she's a very manipulative person always in her room away from us, I live with my 70 yo mother and my 16 yo daughter she is very verbally, emotional, mentally abusive to me and my mother she uses me all the time I cry all the time my heart hurts so bad and I ask myself what happened she says shs can't wait to move out next year when she turns 18 and that makes md very sad, I'm depressed all the time, I'm tired of hurting how can she treat me and my mother so badly! I'm a single parent and live for my kids so... Most of the time I just want to die like literally I don't want to end my life but maybe my daughter would be very happy so... What can you tell me??? I definately need a cocktail!
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Brittsmom
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Nov 12, 2010 4:26 AM
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Hello again moms, I thought I would give you all an update on my situation. Here is a short recap: My 16 (almost 17) year old daughter moved in with her father and stepmom about 4 months ago. She said horrible things to me like how she was not able to talk to me and how she and I always argued. Her father just came back into her life a few years ago (and never paid child support). She really talked bad about me to her father and they all sucked it up good. Now lets fast forward to just yesterday: I called my daughter to tell her about some good news (her uncle, my brother is expecting his first child). When I was on the phone with her, she seemed really embarrased cause her dad his his friend were being loud and obnoxious in the background. She even asked them to quiet down and apologized to me for their rudeness. I kept things positive and the conversation short. I also told her that I would be sending her a little bit of money because I knew she could use it (yeah I'm feeling a bit sorry for her even though she is the one who made the decision to leave and was rude to me). Like many of you here, I have cried and screamed and wondered what I did that was so wrong and how my daughter could be so awful toward me. I had to learn that it wasn't really me after all. I'm going on with my life, but at the same time I am letting my very confused daughter know that I am still there. I'm not crying anymore and I'm not badgering her anymore either. I call her now MAYBE twice a month and keep things short and positive.
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OKIE IN OK
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(501 of 792)
Nov 11, 2010 9:34 AM
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InNeedOfPeace.......that is amazing and I am so happy for you. To those of us that are Christians the cross does signify reconciliation of God and man, so for me, I can see where it would also be a point of the same for you and your daughter. Thank you for sharing, it brings hope to those of us still trying to cope and understand....
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InNeedOfPeace
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Nov 10, 2010 2:27 PM
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Hi Everyone... I haven't posted in a very long time, but I wanted to share something with you. I'm hoping it might give some of you hope.. Just to update you, my daughter, who is 37, stopped speaking to me 3 years ago. I don't really know why, but it wasn't the first time. She had done it before, but never for this long.. She even moved to Germany with her husband and my grandchildren and never even said goodbye.. I ventured on a journey of heartbreak to finding peace in my life.. I have totally changed the way I look at things over the last 3 years, and feel so much stronger, spiritual and healthy because of it. But what is truly amazing is what happened a few weeks ago. I'm sure some of you have heard of vision boards. It's basically a board where you post things you want to happen in your life. Last summer I made a vision board and I put a picture of my family on it with a message, "I want whatever this is between my daughter and I to be healed, once and for all". Then I forgot about it. While shopping about a month ago with my husband, I saw a cross in a store and thought my daughter would like it. I showed it to my husband, he said "get it", I said "no..she probably wouldn't want it.". but something kept pulling me back to that display and I ended up purchasing the cross. Here's the really amazing thing.. That same week, my daughter was in a store, noticed a cross in a display case, and the thought came to her that I'd really like it. She did the same thing I did, kept walking away from it, but something kept pulling her back. She even left the store, got in her vehicle, tried to leave, but something very overwhelming told her to go back inside and buy that cross. Remember, we haven't spoken in 3 years. Why we would both think of buying the other a gift in the same 48 hour period after 3 years is pretty amazing. She sent it to me with a note telling me how much she's missed me and she just wants whatever this is between us to be healed, once and for all..There was no blame, no judgement, no excuses..Just a message of of love..I sent her the cross I had purchased for her, explaining how I ended up buying it, and told her I think the cross symbolizes forgiveness, and that's why we were both drawn to a cross and felt an overwhelming need to buy them. We have now been in contact quite a bit and our relationship seems to have changed significantly on some level.. It's like we see each other through fresh eyes and appreciate each other like we never could before. I'm not a religious person, but I am very spiritual. When I made that vision board, I put everything that was in my heart on it, I sent it out to the universe, or to God, however you want to say it, and then I let it go and forgot about it. I know this may sound airy fairy, but I have no doubts that the universe, our angels, God, whatever, guided us to those crosses. That isn't something I ever could have imagined would be the thing that brought us back together... Such a small jester, and yet, it's all it took. I know you are all in pain, trying to heal your broken hearts and desperate to understand and/or fix what is happening between you and your daughters... Some of you are very angry... I was too... Some of you will read what I just wrote and tell me where to stick it.. But the one thing I've learned from this lesson is that it's better to just let it go.. Let the universe, God and time, heal this wound. You can hang on to the past, like I did for a very long time, or you can just let it go. Release your self from so much pain and heaviness.. Live for today, not for tomorrow and never in yesterday. We can't change our yesterdays...we can't control our tomorrows.. but we can live in today... So that's what I hope you can all do.. Live for today, let your self breath, notice all the good things in your life, let the rest of it go and let time heal this wound. Much love to you all... As they say, this too shall pass.. Time will repair this wound...For now, just let it go!
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OKIE IN OK
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Nov 9, 2010 2:38 AM
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It has been a hard night for me. Yesterday evening my daughter that has been gone for 3 weeks came home with one of her friends and was only here to get her things. I had told her when she left I was going to throw her things out since she lied to us about where she was. Tonight i reminded her of what I had told her and she jumped up and immediately ran to her room and began pulling out drawers, which were empty. She threw the drawers so hard she broke one of them adn they are very heavy! She was screaming and cursing and my husband slapped her and told her to knock it off and leave. She started grabbing anything she could lay her hands on and starting to the door. she gave us the finger and slammed the door on my husband's hand and it is swollen and most likely broken. He pushed her off the porch and closed the door, she wasn't done. I tried to speak to her and she slapped me in the face and called me a f.....B....and that she hated me. We got her stuff out of the barn and threw it out for her to get. We are done. My husband got out his shotgun and told her other thug guyfriend to leave and never return. I am in pain and can't sleep. We are crushed, broken, and done. I will file for a protective order today and I am no longer her mother,. I only have 2 children now and they are precious. I don't understand why God allowed her into our home but sometimes bad things happen to good people is all I know.
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OKIE IN OK
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Nov 8, 2010 10:16 AM
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Courtney.......someday she will thank you....just not today. Take heart...you did what was best for her.
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Courtney
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Nov 8, 2010 6:51 AM
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I have a 16 year old daughter that HATES me!!!! She tells me all of the time that I ruined her life. I pressed charges against a man she thought she loved and now she hates me. Shes my only child and I love her with all my heart, dont know what to do.
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hokem55
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Nov 6, 2010 2:10 PM
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Well, the fact that there have been 494 replies to this topic has made me realize I am not alone. My 21 year old cannot seem to be around me for a minute without the hateful attitude. It's causing tension in the house and my husband and I have finally put our foot down. She only has to follow one rule when in our house -- speak respectfully. If she doesn't, she's out of here. It wasn't pretty when we reinforced it for the first time today, but out she went (she has her own apt, but her roommate had her boyfriend there this weekend.) I've been verbally abused by her for too long. She says she hates me, that I have all of the issues, etc. etc. I am trying very hard not to buy into her statements. I know I was/am a good mom, despite the mistakes we all make. I told her she can think what she wants, but that I don't want to hear it any more. Luckily, I have a supportive husband, but he keeps getting in the middle of these altercations. When will this end?
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OKIE IN OK
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Nov 5, 2010 8:36 AM
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Cronely....you rock and happy sailing!! Your daughter doesn't know what she is missing, you are a brave woman! Matter of fact I think me and my husband will go to a romantic weekend in Branson on my daughter's christmas money! Because......I should give her a gift why????? My back is hurting from bending over backwards. And I already figured out, I can't buy, beg, or earn her LOVE, but I will have RESPECT.
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Cronely
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(494 of 792)
Nov 5, 2010 8:02 AM
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> Modernmom and Grammy.......there are many of us in the same boat. I have cried and even screamed form the hurt. I have lost all pride and begged my child to come home and love us. We have only received rudeness and disrespect in return. This weekend my oldest daughter finally broke and cried and let me know that she needs me and how hurt she is to not only have lost a sister, but her mom as well. I got my wake up call. There are people in this world that need and want our emotions and participation in their lives and we can't fix the ones that don't. If you knew where it was broken you could fix it, but most times it is just that they do not want us in their lives, for whatever reason. > It is painful. It is devastating. It is wrong. But we cannot let that be what defines us. > love and prayers........ This is very good advice. My ex-husband knew this so many years before I accepted it. Sometimes you just have to get on with your life and let your children get on with theirs.
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Cronely
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Nov 5, 2010 7:58 AM
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My daughter was a nice person 'til aged 13. Then she was a bee-atch. She grew up, married, divorced and then took up with a loser. She had 3 kids by him, one a year for 3 years. She is a good mom, he's in jail, and she works every hour she can to provide for them. They are all just about to hit the teen aged years. She seldom asks anything from me, and if I feel inclined to give her money anyway, she makes it clear that if I want to give it to her, fine, but she doesn't owe me respect. Her dad and I had her when we were in our 20's and it took us a very long time to grow up. We did some stuff we shouldn't have done, but she was never homeless, neglected, hungry, or without the things she really needed--clothes, school supplies, doctors and meds when she was sick. Just in the last few months, I knew she was in a financial jam. I sent her 2000 bux. I wanted to make sure I had the address right. I ask her 13 year old daughter, who was busy on-line inviting everyone she knew to her 13th birthday party. The child was rude, and couldn't be bothered to walk downstairs and get the information I asked for. My daughter didn't make her apologize and said I was 'exaggerating as usual'. At that moment I had a very liberating epiphany. The kids only got 30 dollars apiece for their birthdays (all in August). I am not doing much for her anymore. I am my own child now. I will be much nicer to myself, because self sacrificing gets me nowhere. It isn't how I pictured my grandmother years to be, but okay, I can deal with it. No big family dinner and no grandma's home-made pound cake. But grandma has plans....this Thanksgiving I am hitting the little island off the coast, cause I spent the 1,200 bux I could have spent on Christmas and birthdays and spent it on a boat, trailer and motor. Up the crone! The girl will have to be on her begging knees before I give her one red cent again. This is a direct quote from her, when I whined that I did send her money and that I did love her and the kids. 'Oh, I'll take anything you hand me.' Reach out your hand now little girl.
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