please someone help me!!!! i have a 14 13 and 11 year old girls. things are fine between my 2 youngest but my oldest is a different story. i cant tell her anything that she doesn't blow up at me. when that happens i get upset and it goes down hill from there, what should i do please help
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SARAHS
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Jul 15, 2010 10:05 PM
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THIS TOPIC IS TABOO YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT? wELL,here i am with the same story.. my daughter left at 17 and a half, the same day her foster sister was asked to leave. i had not spoken to her since... that was january. she finally called a week before her 18th birthday {june}... well after the"big birthday weekend" i called her over to talk with her... i thought by now she would be tired of living with my mom.and after all i hooked her up for a birthday...right?..i was wrong ..she had a major attitude hands on the hips, she told me she cant talk to me.and she never could.after we talked for about two hours{i figred let me tell her everything now before she gets to far gone...and then she cant say i didnt tell her} well it didnt work... she walked out that day even more damged ...i think? so graduation was right around the corner... my daughter stood behind my mom and sked me was i going to slap her or something. after she tried to tell me what for..{well im sorry moms....but i as raised with and iron fist.. that was the way} andi was not and will not ever tolerate a "sassing child".. for i popped her one right in the kisser...oh boy it was a huge fight and everyone was crying...this was the day before graduation. i was so devastated i didnt want to go.{not like her dad did}. so now graduation is over my daughter hates me and she turned the whole famly against me. i had planned on relocating and now that she has graduated and "on her own" i mving on. someone posted here that you have to ALLOW yourself to be happy...the girls are doing them without EVEN thinking about how we are all in our quiet place dying and gagging..i cried for three days straight... and on the fourth day i was sad and tired of crying.. i prayed and asked God for Mercy{through my blubbering}... and i havent cried from that day. Now i still get sick when someone asks about her and dont have the answer. i am well was a single parent. her father was jus n the shadows. i had lots of help from my maternal side of the family { but there are the ones she moved in with} my daughter looked at all the thngs i did and blames them on her unhappiness and jealousy... i dont knww hat she expected but i gave her all i had...and now im stil young enough to start a family i never really had and if she wants to join in she is more than welcome...if not..well we'll be over here tanning by my pool...okay!
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NEWMILENIUM
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Jul 14, 2010 12:12 PM
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HELLO! AFTER TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT´S GOING ON WITH YOUR DAUGHTER CAN I ASK WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOU? I ALSO HAD A LOUSY CHILDHOOD BUT DON´T PUNISH MYSELF ADDING DRINKING OR GETTING FAT! DEAR, YOU ARE ALIVE! FIRST LOVE YOURSELF! YOUR DAUGHTER KNOWS YOU´RE WEAK! YOU DON´T NEED TO BUY YOUR FAMILY´S LOVE! WHY THE CAR? DOES SHE DESERVE IT? AND WHAT ABOUT THE TV,..! YOU DON´T HAVE TO GIVE EXPLANATIONS FOR YOUR DECISIONS! WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ¡YOU ARE THE MOTHER , THE GROWNUP, ! THINGS ARE YOURS! YOU CAN "TELL" WHY YOU DECIDED SOMETHING BUT YOU MUST NOT´T ADMIT TO GIVE AN " EXPLANATION" TO YOUR CHILDREN!. WHO DOES SHE THINK SHE IS? THE MOTHER, THE OWNER, THE ONLY ONE?SHE´S JUST A SPOILED POOR CHILD OF 18 YEARS! IF YOU CONTINUE BEING SO PERMISSING, SHE´LL ONLY GET WORSE! IF YOU LOVE HER TRY TO PUT THINGS IN I´IT'S PLACE... SAVE HER FROM HERSELF! IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SHE´S NOT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SO PROBABLY , IF YOU DON´T MAKE SOME CHANGES SHE´LL HAVE A LIFE FULL OF PROBLEMS ...TRY TO STOP PUNISHING YOURSELF, STOP DRINKING(SHE KNOWS THAT AND PROBABLY HATES YOU FOR YOUR WEAKNESS, SORRY TEENS ARE LIKE THAT!)TRY TO STOP THINKING ABOUT YOUR PAST... YOU´VE GOT A LIFE IN FRONT! YOU HAVE TO WIN HER RESPECT! DON´T EXPECT ANYTHING FROM OTHERS , DO ALL YOU CAN BY YOURSELF, THEN YOU´LL START TO FEEL BETTER AND YOU´LL SURELY AND INSTINCTIVELY KNOW WHAT TO GIVE, WHEN TO SAY NO, WHEN TO SPEAK OR GIVE AN EXPLANATION.. STOP LOOSING..!!!! YOU DESERVE TO BE RESPECTED AND LOVED AS ANYBODY BUT YOU´LL HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR OWN OLD RULES.. WHISH YOU WELL! (I´M A SPANISH SPEAKER ... LUCK WITH MY ENGLISH!)
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Heartbroken Imperfect Mother
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Jul 13, 2010 4:29 PM
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My daughter will be 18 in a few days. She is one of the rudest, cruel, meanest people I know. I try my best to be kind, fair, interested and still be her mother, not her friend. Today, as every other day, ( I was on my way to a doctor appointment I had for 4 months, She was in Summer School for failing a class with a friend).....I spoke to her about what she may want to do for her birthday. The conversation went well, because it was about her getting something...Because I couldn't pick her and her friend up at the set time after their exam today, she was brought home by the friends father. When I got home she was short, curt, borderline nasty, testy, argumentative for no reason at all and she of course was playing video games. She wanted to go spend the afternoon with that same friend. On the way to a flurry of errands I dropped her off. She had her cell phone (no one has home phones anymore, so her cell was the only way I could get a hold of her). I called and called and she never picked up. So after 3-4 hours there, I went to pick her up. She was extra nasty to me, extremely disrespectful, so I put my foot down and told her that she does not speak to her mother or any other adult that way. It only got worse. When we got to the car she threw the fact that I have, for the last 4 years since my mother's death, I have been having a problem with drinking too much. I have recently made huge strides to eliminate alcohol in any form from my life. I am not proud of possibly being an alcoholic but I am realistic and know I did not invent the problem, I am just one more person who has a problem that they don't want. She started blasting me for a few incidents in the last 4 years... She was very nasty. very. I said, hey, I know I have a problem. I am working on it....mothers are never perfect, I can only do what I am doing, work on it. She just kept going. I then said, "do you think you can arrange to graduate early, afterall, you are 18, it would be good for you to go into the military (which she has had planned for over a year). She said I am not going into the military. I said well then how about college. I don't have to accept mistreatment from my own daughter. I don't enjoy being with her, talking to her or anything. She is very nasty. There has to come a time when she realizes that she has crossed a line and is responsible for the consequences she worked for. NOW, I do not know what to do. Now what? ---- Heartbroken, hurt, disappointed and angry
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ChristianMomOf20YrOld
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Jul 11, 2010 1:40 PM
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Interesting to find this forum after a search of my 20-year-old daughter hates me. I would not exactly sum it up like that in reality, but seemed a quick way to find a group like y'all's. Here's my story, or rather, the impetus for writing this: My daughter just left, on her way back to where she lives for her summer job, in housing paid for by the company. She's leaving because we had a run in last night. But that was after about four hours of a great time. Yesterday, Saturday, I picked my daughter up in NYC after she took a bus ride here from her work place, to stay the weekend - but the main point being to pick up her car - which was here, being fixed. The engine had been completely ruined on a car I bought for her (after asking my father for 1/2 of the cost, since I could not afford it. I also used the money I had been planning to spend on a promised gift of a camera for my son. So this was a sacrifice to buy the car for her a couple of years ago - but she doesn't think much about the sacrifice). So, anyway, had her car towed from her work to our local gas station at a cost of $400 because the local guy would fix the car for $3,000 less than anyone in her area. Picked her up, took her to China Town for a quick dinner, eating it in the car, on the way to take her to have her roots touched up. Keep in mind, I have had a very hard time financially so this was all like a beautiful gift from God to us - as we have known being hungry, etc. My husband died and we were left in poverty. So my daughter, Saturday, gets in the car, eats the Chinese food, gets her hair colored, comes home to eat with me and my dad - and then says she's going to play video games. And I realize uh-oh!! I gave the tv to my son, without telling her. She throws tantrums. So I figured better let him have it without telling her. But didn't think about the fact the tv would be gone when telling her to come home to get the car when fixed. So, after asking my dad to pay the almost two thousand dollars for the car, my daughter is in the house finding out there's no tv for her to play (no BIG SCREEN TV) we do have a regular one. But the big one was a gift for the children so she was furious I let him take it. She came running after me, as I know by now when she's in a tizzy LEAVE. I'd gone for a walk (really to call my son on the cell phone and warn him). I was able to hide the phone, quickly, so she thought I was just going for a walk (to avoid her, obviously. That she knew). And she tried to talk a little bit (in a tantrum fashion though) to show me how wrong I was to let him have the TV and how I supposedly favor him (well he doesn't throw tanstrums so he IS a lot easier!). So I said if she thinks about it she'll realize it's jealousy. And that I'd let him do it because he had some editing work to do and needed a monitor. (True. It is not about watcing TV). So she goes into the garage where there's my car (on her way into the house) and she sees a glass bottle of grape juice - and throws it! Crash. Under my car. Then she went to sleep on the sofa, with her boots on, until the morning. At which time she left. She would tell you that I favored my son by giving him the TV and that it was disappointing for her not to be able to play games. And that I am fat, and can never loose weight. And that the money I spent on her wasn't my money anyway so there's no need to be grateful to me. And that she's grateful for the Chinese food, ride and that that has nothing to do with giving Steve a TV. And she would say that I deserve having glass thrown under my car and too bad. She has no sense of feeling bad about things. I really am perplexed by her. It was worse when she was a teen. But I have a feeling the people at her job hate her. Who wouldn't? She is very beautiful. Smart. Just rude as can be, self-centered. Thinks that other people are shallow, not her. She even gets mad at God. There feels like no way to talk to her. She just gets angry. Sometimes I wonder if all of our daughters are depressed. Could depression be epidemic? And we are all seeing the results? Is it from seeing TV and assuming that because all shows depict children who hate their parents, that they should hate them too? I honestly find almost nothing pleasurable about my daughter. I pray to be with her without even flinching so she can not see that she is not even a pleasant person to be with. I am not proud of her though I say so to make her feel good about herself when she does something good. And when she acts like throwing the glass, I tell her i am disappointed in her. I take great care NEVER to respond in like fashion and NEVER to be unloving. I keep telling myself seven times seventy when i am tempted to pout or not answer her. She is a miserable person. I think a lot of the problem with kids these days is that we ALL allow these kids to make comments to each other like, "idiot, not like that..." They are SOOOOOOOOOO rude to one another! They say o that's how people talk. Yeah, well, that's why we hate you kids. lol We are trying so hard to be loving examples!And all you are doing is taking advantage and being rude back. I thought the girl here who took the time to write a very thoughtful, honest, insightful letter to moms was really, really brilliant. Thank you, so much for that. Yes, we were all daughters. In my case, I had a mother who was like a two-year-old. She could never share, was all about her and never ever ever showed me things like how to tie my shoes. I had to figure it out. She said I was too stupid to learn. So let me tell ya THAT'S a mother ya don't want! lol So I PROMISED myself I will be a GOOD mother, a KIND mother, an INSTRUCTIVE mother, a LISTENING mother. And what I found out is: kids with good mothers don't recognize that they are in fact good mothers! Part of my biggest obstacle though was that because of the fire I had my kids around MY MOTHER! Who ws always telling my kids how awful I am. How stupid, how ugly. So guess what my kids grew up thinking? That the nice mother was the fool. So it has been a challenge!!! But one thing I have promised myself: NEVER EVER EVER EVER to be unloving or mean or childish to my daughter. So ok maybe something went awry and she is a beast. But it will not ever be that I fed into that! I will not behave like that and I will not be like all the people who say o tough love. tough love makes these kids WORSE - and it just gets YOU out of the problem - and only for a while. Tough love is EXACTLY what Jesus preached AGAINST. The Pharisees were unloving and superficial. I will not be like that. I will be loving to my daughter (even though I feel like I can't stand her personality nor her choices!! lol She seems like a beast. ) I am grately looking forward to when she has a real job and LEAVES. And I will be grateful when she gets married - if anyone will ever marry her! The painful thing is I can see she is not happy. And I can see she is being mean because she feels the world is mean to her! LET'S ALL PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER'S DAUGHTERS, PLEASE~!! That this ends. And that whatever social phenomena causes this, ends!!
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disappointed
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Jul 8, 2010 5:29 AM
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I totally understand. I'm in the same boat. Best of luck.
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goingcrazy2
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Jul 8, 2010 1:14 AM
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I completely understand how you feel. My (then) 15 year old daughter decided to leave me and my husband (who has known her since she was four years old and has been her stepdad since six) to live with her father who was a decent father (bad husband) She wanted to live with him because (now I know) he was seldom home (at the bar) and she had more freedom. She rarely wanted to see me or talk to me unless she was not getting what she wanted or he yelled at her (which I was very familiar with) He knew he had high blood pressure but continued to live his lifestyle. I am in no way innocent - I have my own vices - (and please, ARMCHAIR PSYCHOLOGISTS, i'm one also, MEN and CHILDLESS people, NO ADVICE PLEASE) OK to go on, my daughter was living with him and he had a stoke on October 27th, 2009 at the age of 46. She and him were in the house alone, she was asleep and found him in his bedroom and called 911. I was on my way home from work (10:30 pm) and got the call from her that her daddy was dead! I turned around and rushed to his house and she totally shunned me! A neighbor (a "nurse" by profession?) stopped me from running to her to comfort her. She was telling me to "calm down" and all I wanted to do was comfort my only child. Let me tell you, I was about to knock her out for trying to stop me from getting to her to hug her (my daughter was sitting in a chair in her driveway while paramedics were there) AFTERMATH - My daughter was seeing a therapist to help her through this, and she decided after several sessions that she no longer wanted to visit the therapist. OK. Fast forward, my now sixteen year old daughter allowed a friend to drive her deceased father's truck on June 4th, 2010 and wrecked it. Now I am the bad Mom because in the confusion of the scene of the accident, I allowed the tow truck driver (luck of the draw) to take the truck to a understaffed and overworked repair shop. Now it has been over a month since the accident. The truck is no where near done, and after a month they offered a free loaner car. My husband and I both thought this was a bad idea, but I finally broke down because she is driving me crazy. We went today to get the loaner car, but it had an expired inspection sticker and the asst mgr took it to get inspected and it did not pass. I tried to be understanding with the person at the shop, but he made the ridiculous mistake of telling us that we could drive the loaner car anyway, with an expired inspection sticker! OK now I am the evil mother who just wants to keep my daughter prisoner, that this was some kind of conspiracy to keep her home Please, I was the one to convince her stepdad to let her drive the free loaner. I am at the point...well I don't know exactly how I feel OK she said to me three times today that she hated me...so finally I said "Well then I hate you too!" Oh boy, that was exactly what she wanted to hear. sometimes I don't want to care, but I want her to be happy, Believe me, I am at the point where I don't want to give a *** anymore. I am trying to be strong and do the right thing but I am being fought with and told that I am hated left and right. I broke down tonight and have been crying uncontrollably, which has been well overdue. (PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE TRULY READ THIS, COUNSELING HAS BEEN DONE, OFFERED, OFFERED AGAIN, ETC. THIS IS ONLY TO THE HELPLESS, MISERABLE MOMS OUT THERE THAT, HEY, I'M THERE TOO!)
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disappointed
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Jul 7, 2010 11:45 PM
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Never in a million years could I imagine my daughter hating me. We had been so close. I love her so much. She had always backed me up. She stood up to her father when he was hurting me. She always looked up to me. Things are all crazy now. It all started about 5 months ago. I took my daughter's phone away for something. She went nuts. I told her to give me her password if not I was going to get software to hack into the phone. She begged me not to look but I did (I am the one that pays for the phone). Well I saw a side of my daughter that I didn't know existed. My precious 15 year old daughter was sexting. I was so hurt. I took her phone away for 1 month and disabled the camera. Looking back, I think that punishment was not enough. About 1 month ago, I saw that she got a D in Spanish. I was really upset and took the phone away for 1 week. She again went nuts. I kept on adding 1 week until it added up to a month. She came into my bedroom and wouldn't leave. She put her face in mine. It was just bad. I went to a party and later discovered that she decided to sleep over a friend's house. I went over there and picked her up. We got into a physical fight. I know that I shouldn't have. I know that I am the adult and I should not have let her push my buttons. I was just so frustrated. She pushed me. I pushed back. I was yelling that I was her mom and she had to respect me. I told her to go to her father's house. Her brother took her and I went for a long, long, drive. I've been divorced for 15 years. Since my daughter was born. Her father has been awful. He used to beat me up and threaten to kill me when we were married. After the divorce the issue became money. I had to fight for every penny the kids got. It's been hell. Real HELL. I am not without any faults. Because of the abuse, I now suffer from post-traumatic disorder and cyclothymic disorder (bi-polar). I know that at times I yell a lot but I really thought she and I had a good relationship. We rarely fought. My daughter has decided to spend 2 weeks with her father and two weeks with me. Her father - the man who has never supported her. My God, he missed my daughter's National's Dance Competition to wash his car, is now her hero. Today I found out that they called the police on me that day of the fight. I had the bruises from my daughter grabbing me yet she calls the cops on me. She said how I wasn't in jail because of her. She threw how her father had been paying for her expenses that last two weeks she was with him. I was so angry, but very calm this time. She told she wanted to go back to her father's house. I gave her a hug and told her that I loved her but that since she wanted to live with her father, that I was not going to get in her way. I told her that if my actions for the past 15 years were not enough for her that I could do no more. I am tired of being treated so badly. I am a really good mom. I have given my kids not only financial support but all my time and love. If my daughter can't see it, there is nothing more that I can do. I am devastated. I love my daughter but I have to let her go. Actually, she has already left me and become someone else. I am leaving this in God's hands because I can't deal with it. Hopefully he can carry me through this horrible time. I'm glad that I found this site for I always knew that I was not the only one. Many good mothers are in this same situation. God help us all.
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Maddie
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Jun 29, 2010 12:31 PM
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I am new to this Forum and at the same time truly AMAZED that I am NOT ALONE nor a BAD MOM! I reconcilled with my daughter 2 years ago.. She is spoiled rotten and lives with her Dad who only enables this behavior. She dropped out of high school cuz she wasn't getting up in the morning to go...and she was having trouble with some kids...of course it was their fault and Dad allowed her to do online classes which she stopped so she never graduated!! Yes, she is working full time. She is terribly 2 faced, talks about everyone, (Bad Mouths) so I am certain I too, am one she puts down. With out going into a long detail blog here this is the latest. Brace yourself...LOL Yes, humor and my positive and optimistic attitude has truly kept me going...yet I feel like I am out of control allowing this, as I know if a friend ever did this that would be it! So here goes~ My birthday comes and goes and NO call, NO card...nadda! Mothers Day comes and she tells me she can ONLY meet me at her side of town, I live just 45 mins away...I even suggested 1/2 way and she refused. Then calls me at 6 PM and tells me she can't even do that! I have many many friends and can for the most part get along with just about anybody! I am very well liked and loved by many~ A co worker ran into her and my friend made a comment about me saying...your Mom is so pretty and she responds by saying...oh, you should see her without makeup...LOL RUDE!!! I keep allowing myself to get HURT! I call her once a week...I so want a relationship. Sometimes she answers sometimes not. She is very moody, and quite manipultive, Also was diagnosed with ADD...but that is NO EXCUSE, by gawd! :0( She very seldom responds to my texts, and or calls. Of course if she has something COOL to share then she calls. Sometimes we talk for an hour and I feel so good and hopeful. Then slammmm!!! Months go bye she doesn;t call...yet I am most always the one who calls. I miss my babygirl. Now she is posting pic's of her Dad's wedding and makes a note how beautiful his bride is. Now mind u she bad mouths her, says she is so ugly and not good for her Dad, yet she says this? Screamed bloody hell to her Dad when he announced he was getting married, yet she goes to his wedding!! Claims she hates this poor lady. How the heck do I get away from this? I am happily married to my one true Soul Mate and he too has gone thru something similiar. He tells me to walk away and someday she will grow up and make amens, But ya know....sometimes people don't change and continue to be mean and evil their entire lifes. Her Dad is a real phony, Bi-Polar and extremely VINDICTIVE!! She is too, yet I continue to allow her in my life even when this so called non relationship is TOXIC!! I am desperate for a relationship with my only daughter and I am so disappointed that she is so mean and hateful. She is this way with so called friends too.. Bullying and intimidation has been her weapons for years even when she was young. I know I need to STOP contacting her and STOP looking at her Facebook... Please guide me as my heart is broken and I am truly hurting. Maddie -- Edited by Maddie at 06/29/2010 12:32 PM PDT
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frowning2long
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Jun 21, 2010 4:20 PM
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I have been struggling with my 17 year old daughter since she was about 10. When she was about 13 she started to not want anything to do with me (sounds normal for teen) except for when she wanted something. My first experience with "my daughter hates me" came in letter form. She was 10 years old. We were visiting her grandparents in FL during Christmas vacation. She felt like she did not get enough gifts and wrote me a letter about how much she hated me for it. That was the first of many "I hate you" messages from her to me. It has been very difficult for me to truelly trust her since then. I typically feel that she manipulates me by being nice to me when she wants something. She shows no respect or appreciation toward me and seems to feel entitled to all that she has. Anything I say to her is taken by her to be negative. It is a struggle to even speak to her without her misinterpreting it. She barely looks at me and her responses have an attitude that I interpret as "F*** Y** for even the simplest things. Common conversation becomes confrontational and defient. Her bedroom is a horrific mess that has not been cleaned/vaccuumed in over 2 years. Everything is disposable to her. She thinks it is ok to go buy new all the time. I feel that she continues to drain me of my emotions and cash without any conscience of how I feel. There is very little in return from her, but very much expected of us. Her daily behavior is selfish and disrespectful. She has no regard for other family members property or space. Nothing is ever put away or cleaned up after. Her stuff is spewed all over the house. There has been numerous incidents along the way that have brought me to a point that I feel that I need to Let Go because I am so depressed and hurt by her. I have been researching sociopathic behavior and my daughter seems to exhibit several of the symptoms; however, those are behaviors that I observe personally toward me. I would be happy to continue a thread on the topic "my daughter hates me". I am very sad, frustrated and canfused about this. I feel that I really sucked as a parent.
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Molly Kelly
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(364 of 808)
Jun 21, 2010 11:25 AM
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Somebody help me. All I do is cry. I thought it would be better by now, but my thirty-year old daughter still hates me---never calls, never visits and blows up if I say anything about MY feelings. We live in different cities which only aggravates the problems. She got married a month ago to a very nice guy. The wedding was over-the-top luxurious paid for my my extremely wealthy ex husband and his wife. Just got back the wedding pictures which threw me into a terrible depression. I had talked myself into believing the wedding was great, but the pictures showed me otherwise. Everything was about the stepmother. She's in most of the pictures. As I found out, she was 100% involved in the wedding planning, while I was left out. It feels now like I am totally dispensable, that I should be thrown away, that I don't matter,that I was a terrible mother. My other child is son. He totally loves me--so I couldn't have been that bad. Somebody please help me. I am severely depressed
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sad and surprised old Mamma
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Jun 20, 2010 1:18 PM
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This forum has been a great help to me. It is soothing to find out I'm not the only one, and that my daughter's rage and hatred of me does not mean I am a bad parent. Of course the terrible pain remains in my heart, but as my daughter is almost 15, it is probably time to start letting go. We were always so close I thought. Once she hit puberty, it turned horrible. I got her into a boarding school, partly because our relationship was getting more dysfunctional - it's HARD to live with someone who makes it clear she depises you- as well as other reasons, like academics, etc. I hope one day we can be close again. But this forum has taught me that if it happens or not, I need to take care of myself, and not allow her to shred me into nothing. If that takes distance, well so be it. Our kids are a gift, not a possession. We can enjoy their babyhood, toddler time, and the golden age of 5-12 years, then they struggle to break away, as they must. It's sad and unfair that we mothers who did most of the child-rearing, are the hated ones. The Dads are usually adored, even if they were barely there and took no interest. I loved being her Mom. It was so much fun for me and I think for her, too. So, that is probably all anyone can expect, especially these days of rudeness and disposable people. We're not the icons we used to be back in time! I wish all the best for us poor broken-hearted, loving Moms. After awhile, we will get used to family time being over, and make new lives, maybe based on ourselves for a change. I love all of you. Please be good to yourselves.
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FaithGal
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Jun 11, 2010 10:46 AM
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Hi 'MOMS'!! I have to share something personal with each of you who wrote about your daughters hating you. I'm a grown up daughter  , and one who has probably walked 10 thousand miles in your daughter's shoes! I cannot speak or write on their behalf, but I can from my own personal journey and experience with my own mother, who is deceased and resting in peace. I was a beautiful baby with big brown eyes, who grew into a shy little girl. I had 3 sisters and 1 baby brother. We were happy little children and got along fine for the most part, until we got older and hit puberty. In our toddler years, we played in the park, chased each other down the corridors of the dwelling we lived in, practiced cooking w/one another in the kitchen while our parents were sleeping, and even bathed together. Yes...all 5 of us in a seemingly huge bathtub. My mom and dad used to call us their 5 little Indians. My mom was of Austrian Heritage, and father a native of a 'Spanish' country. I used to wish I could have all my mom's freckles!!! Worse...her fair skin-tone just so that I could experience what a 'sunburn' felt like! So many things about her I wished I could have been, but never would be...so, I thought, until I got older. My story of my relationship with my mother and the adverse feelings I had towards her, stems from an early age of 5, which was the first time I ever felt afraid of her. I saw her get really mad at one of my sisters. I don't recall why she got mad, but I do recall what took place. As punishment, my mother sat my older sister in a chair and got the scissors to cut her hair. Just as she put the scissors to my sister's hair, I remember putting my tiny hand on her wrist and saying "mama ... why are you going to cut her hair? Please don't cut her hair mommy". My mother stopped and decided to not cut her hair. Sometime later, my mother started to abuse me. I became silent and regressed. The beatings were few and far in between, but one's that I would remember for the rest of my life. I withdrew from her affection because I was confused as to whether or not they were sincere. By the time I was 9 years old, my mother sent me away for opening and then spilling her bottle of perfume. She sent me to live with my aunts in PA for a brief time. All the while I was there with my aunts, I cried to be with my mother and my siblings. At that age, I could not comprehend why my mother sent me away. And not once, did I ever consider the possibility or fact that my mother did not love me, at least not until a few years ago, when my childhood babysitter found me online. By time I was 11 years old, our parents moved to the north side of the city and put us in public schools. As if things weren't bad enough at home, I was beaten up by a team of bullies at least 2 or 3 times a week. I couldn't tell my mom because I was afraid of what she would do or say. So, I started to skip school and hide in basements of local apartment buildings until it was time to go home. This lasted for 30 days. The truancy officer came to our house on a day that my mother kept me home while I had been sick, and told my mother that I had not been in school for nearly 30 days. What was to come was horrifying. After the officer left, my mother nearly drowned me a bathtub of water. I was only 11 and horrified! This would be one of the last beatings I would take from her behind my father's back. Yes, my father never knew about them until I was older and when I left home. When I was 12, my parents sent me to my father's native country to live with his sister for several months. It was probably the best decision they could have ever made for me. There, I was reformed, and exposed to another cultural setting that has been notorious for being a paradise on earth. I missed my family terribly, but never really thought of this as a form of punishment. When my mom took me to the airport she cried and told me how much she loved me. I believed her! Why wouldn't I? Regardless of the beatings, she was still my mother, and still capable of showing her affections towards me. Anyway, while overseas, I bonded with the most loving cousins, aunts and uncles on the face of this earth, who now call me their 'adopted sister'. I learned a second language; how to appreciate nature and all things gardening; how to horseback ride; and above ALL THINGS ... how to PRAY and have a friendship with Christ! AMEN to that! While away, I never heard from my mother or siblings, not by phone nor letter. However, I did hear from my father on 4 occasions by telephone. Upon my return, I was surprised to not see anyone at the airport except for my father, who shared that he and my mother had separated. He explained that it was because the city was too dangerous and my mother wanted to keep us safer, so she moved to a rural area, but would be coming for me in a few days. When I saw my mother, I was sooooo happy to see her ... but so shocked to barely even get a hug from her. I'm not sure if this is when I discovered her disdain for me, but things were pretty clear that something just was not right. During the next 4 years, and all throughout high school my mother complained that I was being 'distant' from her; or too emotional; or withdrawn from the family; or even ugly at times. She often told her friends, in front of my face, how much of a bitch I was being and how cruel I was being towards her. I think she had forgotten all about the things that had transpired in the earlier years. Even more, how she never called or wrote to me while I was overseas. When I heard my mother's conversations with her friends and family describing how horrible of a person I was, I think this was the moment when I realized just how much I truly hated my mother. I hated her with every bone in my body, but just as equally so, if not more, my desire to love her was 20x's more powerful than the contempt I felt towards her and the for the things she did to me. During that period, although I thought she was supposed to be 'invincible', I felt as though she wanted everybody to feel sorry for her. I became selfish with my own affections, and oftentimes ignored her for days, perhaps weeks. Yes, this is true, a child can really hate their parents, but I don't believe this can be true without reason. My mother favored my other siblings, and my grandmother favored my brother. My father lived in another city, so I felt as though I had no one to favor me. By time I was 17, my mother told me I was a very sick person, and that I needed help. One time, she broke down in tears, and grabbed a knife and told me to stab her because that's how much she thought I had hated her. In that very instant, I became the adult and I gently grabbed the knife and told my mother to get some help. She cried harder and asked why I hated her so much. I held back my tears and I was speechless. I didn't know what to say, and I know some of you (if you've made it this far) are probably crying by this time, but the truth was, I didn't really hate my mother ... I hated the things she said, and simply just did not understand her. I never wanted anything bad to happen to my mother...above all things I wanted to LOVE MY MOTHER even more than I did. And, one day … I knew, deep in my heart … this would be true! One of you wrote that you felt like dying or killing yourself. You cannot imagine how painful that is to hear. I heard my mother say this for many years, and it was very sad to hear this, but even so … I stood strong and told her to GROW UP! And…I’m telling you that right now…to grow up and to grip of yourself!!! This is NOT THE END of the world…okay!!! This is a phase and yes … you and your daughter may need some help … but your daughter needs you more than anything in the world and it would be a crying shame for her to lose her mommy while she was in that ‘self-discovery’ phase of life. Relationships are complex. Our behaviors and emotions and agendas are not always clear, especially in mother daughter relationships. I remember my mother giving me sound advice, but at the time, I thought she was absolutely insane! Nothing she advised to me at that age made any sense. I wanted to do everything my way. I didn't really care about my mother's ideas ... I was pretty selfish and stubborn at best. By time I was 18, I would be the first of my siblings to leave. I don't really know what this/that did to my mother, but one thing I knew for sure, was that I needed help. I need clarity! I needed to understand if how I felt had reason. Above all ... I needed validity! I needed to know if my mom really loved me. I wanted someone to explain to me why my mother would tell me that she loved me, but on the other hand would beat me. I needed someone to validate the logic (if any) behind that ...because I could not! Instead of going to college, I went into therapy for 8 years. It was all talk therapy. No drugs ... no medications ... no coercions ... no involuntary confinements or straightjackets or anything like that. Just pure good-ol fashioned talk therapy with the best psychologist in the whole wide world who really cared about me, and who helped me to get back my sense of self and self-esteem. In the duration of therapy and as I grew into womanhood, I started to see things differently with my mother. She was an only child, and bore 5 children of her own that made her feel like she had a pot of gold. She did love every single one of her babies, but something had gone wrong in her marriage. She lost her sense of self worth and self esteem. Instead of taking care of herself... she took care of everybody else. She worked 2 or 3 jobs, and I think this was very hard on us because it forced us to grow up much faster than any other average child. As for the beatings, there is nothing on earth that could ever justify a parent beating their child. But in my case, I realize now, my mother was sick. She did everything in her power that she could to raise us on her own. But looking back, I realize now she simply forgot to take care of herself. Deep in her heart she was miserable with a lot of things about her own self and not just the stress of raising 5 children. By the time I was in my late twenties, I came to terms with my relationship with my mother. It was during a visit I had and we were sitting at her table conversing about the photo albums she had out. There, a picture of me came loose from the album. I was just 5 in that photo. I held it in my hand and looked at my big browns that my mother always said she had adored. I thought about all of our difficult times, and then felt a big lump come into my throat. I think I swallowed a BIG FAT TEAR DROP, when I handed her the photo and asked "mom ... did you ever love me?" and she looked away as she said "of course baby I have always you ... I love all of my babies. Why?” Oh...it just had to be the million dollar question ... Why? I pondered for a moment, calculating my thoughts, and then spoke about all of our differences and hurtful moments throughout the past. We must have sat there for 13 hours straight, talking, arguing over our perceptions of what happened in our relationship verses not and even cried at times. Many things she did not recall, but if anything was clear, it would have come when I said "you never acknowledged the way I felt ... you disregarded my feelings and you mocked me in front of everyone as though my feelings and thoughts were not important". It wasn't too much longer after that visit when I received a tearful call from my mother in the middle of the night and heard her apologizing and asking me to forgive her. I was still numb, but told her that I did forgive her. The second call would be her asking me when I was going to stop blaming her and bringing up the past. And, you know what MOMS ... she was right! There comes a time in each of our lives where we must take ownership of our own happiness and stop living and blaming our past. When I realized this, I paid a visit to my mother for a weekend. Everything caught up with me; I finally realized that my 'mommy' would always be my mommy. I realized that when I turned 18 (if not sooner), that I had chosen to leave my mother. My mother never left me ... she was always there waiting for my return. This was the moment that I looked into her eyes and swallowed another big fat teardrop and opened my arms and said "mama ... I need you ... I need you so bad in my life". My mother and I bonded for the next 3 years, as though we were the bestest of friends. I cherished every phone call ... every visit ... and every moment of laughter, tears and joy that I had left with her on this earth, up until the day she had passed away and I whispered in her ear ... I will always be with you mummy ... rest in peace. I forgave my mother for all things said and done, but the hardest thing I could do was to forgive myself for holding on to all that pain which deprived me of having the relationship I could have had with my mother. I think, had it not been for my faith in Christ, I would have never known what surrender and forgiveness was all about. So, I really thank God for being bless with a sense of compassion and friendship with Christ. To this day, I have no regrets of my relationship with my mother. She was my mother and she was my life. She, herself did not have a healthy sense of self-worth. I think part of my mom’s issues had a lot to do with never taking care of self before she became a mom. I know this may not be the case for everyone, but it was for my mom and many others that I know who are struggling with their daughters. And, when I read your stories of your daughters, I simply ask for each and every one of you mothers.... to know that you are not to blame for what your daughter is going through and that we all go through that period in search of our own identity and true selves. Love your daughters ... but don't blame yourselves … you were daughter too!
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carleen
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(361 of 808)
Jun 8, 2010 7:55 AM
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I have a 21 year old daughter who in the past month has started to ignore me, won't talk to me. If i try and talk to her she looks at me with such disdain and hatred it just floors me. She is disrespectful and treats me like a dormat. Her father who wont get in the middle of it, does not say anything, and encourages her attitude at times. This may sounds paranoid but right now I feel like I should pack my bags and leave the house. I am retired now and am home all of the time. My husband and daughter come in and out and never say a word to me. This is hurtful to me and when she does come home I find something to do either outside or leave the house. I feel like a bad mother, but I don't like my daughter right now.
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Barb Z
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Jun 6, 2010 9:09 PM
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My daughter reacts to everything I say as being negative, so basically I can't make any suggestions without her taking it as a criticism. Everything turns into an argument, and who wants that? I don't!. She works near our home and stops by sometimes after work. I asked if she wanted to spend the night at home, and she never wants to do this. I decided to clean out her dresser and put her clothes in a bag if she's not going to ever be in her room anymore. I found a letter she wrote about her self and her self esteem, then another describing how she hated me. It is funny, I had issues with MY mother, but I am much different than my mom, so it does baffle me why this should be happening! I guess I'm just venting and it is good to know there is a forum for others whose daughters "hate" them, too!
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noluv4mommies
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From:
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May 21, 2010 6:18 PM
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Thank you Ssuess so much for taking the time to read my post. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately things are just getting worse, my daughter threatened to run away yesterday. Totally empty threat of course because she came straight home from school but made sure to tell me that she "totally didn't want too!" I feel myself slipping into a depression. I know in my heart that I need to fight to keep my daughter safe but at the same time I need to be there for my other children too. They deserve my attention and they need it. (badly) I have tried counseling, what are you supposed to do when the therapist looks at you and says bringing her in is a waste of money and time because she refuses to utilize the tools therapy provides? That was over four years ago. I feel like I have tried so much but at the same time it seems like I have not tried enough. When my daughter was 8 yrs. old I put her in therapeutic fostercare. A program run through the counties mental health. She stayed for a whole year, we attended group meetings, individual therapy, and meetings with the foster parents. Throughout the year I had regular visitations and phone calls. When it was time for my daughter to come home her foster dad pulled me aside and said "good luck, in all 13 years of doing therapeutic fostercare I have never not been able to get through to a child, until now." I do not have much of a support system and from what I have read on this forum I know I am not alone. I feel like my husband and I are trying to come up with solutions to a problem we cannot fix. We are on state provided insurance right now. The state does not have very good mental health facilities. My family does have a history of mental illness. I was told I suffer from PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) due to the life I was subjected to as a child and adolescent. I have said before I am not perfect, my children have not had to live the same way I did when I was younger. What family has not had there own trials? We have not had it easy by any means but I have not subjected my children to the abuse and trauma that I survived. Therefore I see no reason for my daughters behavior. I also know that each person processes traumatic events differently, what is traumatic for one person might not seem traumatic for another. I was wondering if anyone who has posted on this particular subject, has ever looked into R.A.D.? Reactive Attachment Disorder. I have looked this up and I truly feel that my daughter fits this disorder. There is no cure, medication, nothing to help families with this that I have found yet. I am dying to find out if anyone can find out more information on this and if it will help other mothers in the same situation. Again I am so glad I found this site, I wish all the mothers out there good luck. You are not alone, I will include you all in my prayers, keep you all in my thoughts. I will continue to share what information I find, with hope that it benefits not only my family but all of those in need as well.
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