I have two teenage children and we recently had an issue with one of them accessing some unacceptable websites. I have been researching filtering and monitoring software and had a question or two. 1) Is Spector Pro simply a monitoring software? Does it also provide filtering and blocking. I have been doing some reading but am not completely clear on the capabilities. 2)If the answer to #1 is monitoring only...is it worth putting filter/blocking software on as well 3) Is the software stealthy? Will they know they are being any monitered? 4) Any other advice on products or parental controls you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brian
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Tim_Hunt
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Jan 31, 2010 2:14 PM
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When your child grows up, do you think they will be pleased to hear that you have been reading their diary? That is what 'monitoring software' can be likened to. I believe that we need to use technology to help filter content, but it should never be used to read what your children are saying/writing. Tim
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Dec 1, 2009 5:49 AM
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Welcome beemooney, So glad you're here. Loved your park analogy - hopefully more and more parents will see it that way. How do parents generally respond to your message? Here in the US, for example, parents are still very concerned about online predators (see this article about a recent poll) even though cyberbulllying is a much, much more common problem. Maureen -- Maureen Kochan ConnectSafely community manager
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beemooney
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Dec 1, 2009 3:14 AM
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As 'digital immigrants' our children being the 'digital natives' I think we are a little too quick to press the panic button on Internet safety. Your child has accessed a site that you find unacceptable... As a parent to an 11 year old high functioning Autistic boy, I have the same acceptable and responsible rules for his behaviour offline as I do online. Sanctions I put in place when he; stays out later than agreed, doesn't do homework, chores etc, talks to strange people in the street etc. Are the very same sanctions I put in place online. I have sat with my child and introduced him to the wonderful digital world, as I have with the real world, I have shown him and discussed dangers and security issues online as I have taught him to cross the road and learn to swim. I don't filter which roads he crosses, or monitor it anymore, I trust, we all have to trust, that with an informed and open relationship, our children can make really good decisions about their safety, under our guidance and with our support. I am a Local Authority Officer in Liverpool, the most deprived city in the UK, I am the lead role in the city on E-Safety, this is the message I am taking to all our parents....I can't always be there when my boy crosses the road, but I have taught him how to stop look and listen and be aware, but also to enjoy the park on the other side of the road.
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Nov 12, 2009 11:56 PM
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I actually used SentryPC to block some unhealthy websites ,it is very powerful .
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM
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Oh yeah, sorry to be taking up all sorts of forum real estate hehe. Heres something you guys might want to look up some more. I thought that sentry name sounded odd to me when I read it in a post below so i looked it up. Heres one of the results. http://antivirus.about.com/b/2009/09/08/how-not-to-protect-children-online.htm Its spyware, ditch it if you use it. Keep googling it or yahooing it if you want but if it smells like a rat, acts like a rat, probably is a rat. Avoid 3rd party software at all costs unless you know for a fact you can buy it at a place like newegg or tigerdirect/compusa and it has GOOD REVIEWS since they're WAY less likely to sell some baloney malware program than walmart even. Always love it when people mention these companies breaking US laws etc etc... How bout if they aren't in the US? If the servers outside of the US the company can have business offices here and cannot be legally prosecuted, period. Please look up your security software EXTENSIVELY before you install it, or even THINK about buying it. If you are using this Sentry program, you basically payed someone to install spyware on your machine that by its OWN accounts is a root-kit. (said its "stealthed" oh and btw, this is easily removed/disabled with linux live/boot CD or even powershell/dos in some cases which are all free). Theres no such thing as "stealthed" software, the only thing thats being stealthed is you and your kids private info to some marketing agency thats painting a bullseye on you. Oh, and if you did install that sentry parental controls program, you need to format your hard drive or get a decent tech to take a look at the hard-drive for the root-kit.
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Oct 29, 2009 1:53 PM
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Another one of these posts, nice. This is why I just HAD to register on this site. Read my rambling on http://www.blogsafety.com/topic/Family-Tools-For/New-Filtering-Option/1200001547 Yeah I bring bad news. Where theres a will theres a way. If your kid wants to access whatever site he wasn't supposed to be accessing, as long as theres a net connection of any sort on his/her PC, he'll be able to find a way around it should he/she want.They don't have to be an expert. You'd be surprised how many calls I got from KIDS calling in for their family members when I worked for a major PC manufacturer here in the US (which I won't name) because they knew 1000 fold more about PCs and the net than their parents who were maybe doctors, lawyers, or COMPUTER engineers for that matter (a BSCmp doesn't make you a pro with PCs just shows you theory/practice on building computer parts, very different). There are SOOO many little intricacies and things going on in and around a PC that , I dunno maybe as we get older our brain looses its ability to capture all this information all at once. Sort of like as we get older we loose our ability to learn languages with ease.On the other hand children, while far from being a TRUE pro at something, WILL put 1 and 1 together no matter how many times they have to add 1 and 1 to get their desired result. I wish I had better ways to describe what I know and how I feel with my experience with PCs to try to convey to everyone on here, whether a pro, someone that really believes they're a pro, or a total newbie the depth and scope that a kid will undertake to reach their desired result on the net. But it is nearly impossible it seems. And it seems VERY silly to me that no one has ever done anything to REALLY REALLY affect security for children on the net that hits a little closer to actually being "SECURE" for children and giving you some legitimate peace of mind rather than a small patch that can be easily jumped like a hurdle only meant to fool the uninformed. (emphasis on little above because like I said elsewhere, nothing is 100% secure ever but I have some good ideas I'm thinking of patenting and pitching to Cisco) Anyways here I am rambling again sorry i take up so much space. Thanks.
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Oct 21, 2009 11:06 PM
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The spy software is not easy to be detected as it runs in stealth mode. But if the one you are spying is computer expert, then it is very easy for him/her to find and remove it.
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Jan 9, 2009 2:04 PM
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I actually use Sentry Parental Controls. It's really easy to use and actually has a feature on it meant to be undetected. You can't even delete it through add/remove programs. and here's a review of it: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=109146
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Sep 26, 2008 8:59 PM
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By the way, Content Protect sends you daily emails on what sites your kids visited and what sites they tried to visit and were blocked.
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nette
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Sep 26, 2008 8:51 PM
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I used Content Protect, or now called Net Nanny. It cost about $30 and I can choose my kids sites they visit, what level of protection, etc.
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Sep 26, 2008 9:56 AM
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look into something call B Alert or Bee Alert, I believe it has some of these features you are looking for!
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Sep 25, 2008 1:56 PM
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Spector Pro is primarily a monitoring product but it also contains blocking features. The monitoring allows you to see everywhere they go and everything they do online. You can choose to block those activities that you find inappropriate, so basically you have the best of both worlds. It does not have the traditional filtering, where you can say block all sites of type porn or whatever. IMO that type of solution is dated and very easy to defeat for any child with even a little computer knowledge. As for the stealth issue, it is completely hidden, it does not even show up in the task manager. Unless you tell your child it is there they will never know or be able to find it. FWIW: I have used Spector Pro for years and am very happy with it. -- Edited by Manfred at 09/25/2008 1:57 PM
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Sep 23, 2008 1:56 PM
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Both monitoring and filtering are against mutual trust. When children are in a single-digit age (elementry school), we advice them - "do not talk to strangers", "do not reveal family secrets", "seek our permission before doing this or that". And as we are able to convince them, a mutual trust establish. There are some like minded parents who have already built a free software to apply this parental approval approach on IE. It forces children to seek parent permission before sending out sensitive personal information to a unknown website. But unfortunately microsoft (and now Google) are not considering such fetaure embedded in their browser.
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Re: Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Sep 18, 2008 5:54 PM
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[post deleted for violating our rule against advertising] Post was edited by: Maureen
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Parental Software: Monitoring vs Filtering
Sep 18, 2008 11:03 AM
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I have two teenage children and we recently had an issue with one of them accessing some unacceptable websites. I have been researching filtering and monitoring software and had a question or two. 1) Is Spector Pro simply a monitoring software? Does it also provide filtering and blocking. I have been doing some reading but am not completely clear on the capabilities. 2)If the answer to #1 is monitoring only...is it worth putting filter/blocking software on as well 3) Is the software stealthy? Will they know they are being any monitered? 4) Any other advice on products or parental controls you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brian
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