For a variety of reasons I became suspicious of what my 14 year old daughter was doing on the web. Almost every day she spent literally hours using the computer in her room and would always act surprised when I came in. I knew that she had a MySpace profile but she refused to let me see it claiming that it was profile. About a week ago I decided to purchase SpyRecon ( www.viewsecret.com) to secretly monitor her activity. After checking the program’s activity reports I have learned that she frequently talks to older men online through AIM chats (some of which have been sexually explicitly) and has been visiting websites about drugs!! I have no idea what to do now. How do I confront her about this???? Should I just take here computer away? I had no idea she was engaged in this serious activity and thought I had a good open relation ship with her. Any suggestions? Karen
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Jan 27, 2007 8:27 PM
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I'm about your daughters age, and i can't believe what I'm hearing! You should definatly take your daughter's computer away and give her a talk on the dangers of talking to people that she doesn't even know (or does) about innapropriate subjects. You should also get her into a group that deals with talking about drugs and using them, and tell her that drugs are not cool. I am one of the most popular girls in school, and it's not because I do drugs or anything, it's because people like me for who I am  . I really hope you follow my advice, because if you don't do something, your daughter might be in real danger  . Like my mom says, a parent's job isn't to make their children like them, it's to do what's best for their children. Good luck! 
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Jan 25, 2007 12:25 PM
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I'n not advertising this but this is a great program to monitor what your child is doing online, it's completely undetectable and has a very simple user interface and options. This is the link and it's DEFINITELY worth the money to download. http://siterefr01.cybersam.hop.clickbank.net/
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IAMDYING
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Dec 19, 2006 10:36 PM
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 HELLO SHOCKED I DO HOPE YOU READ! dear: spying i had to write this,i wish i had you as a parent when i was 14.my background qualifies me and mandates that i write my oppinion ( YOU ARE A GREAT PARENT TO MAKE SHUR YOU CHILDREN ARE DOING SAFE AND HAVING POSITIVE EXPEIRANCES,FIRST PLEASE DO NOT USE "TOUGH LOVE",YOU WILL NOT BE HAPPY FOR A LONG TIME, I commend you for doing what needs to be done.next time your spying on daughter’s email,get a program spend a few $$$ buy a router and a cheap laptop with built in DVD/RW = rewritable DVD 4.2 gig about 6 hours of video with compression,not only should you look at her mail as you allready know the worst is happening,set up you laptop "might need a pro to do for you i dont know your experiance,"use the laptop and router ,ut router in a another room but make shure her primary line to the net goes thru the router ,set laptop to be able to control and syncronize with hers,youll need her ip address,the computer name,GET INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL (TCP)-preffered, or ( UDP ) PORT NUMBERS,can set as adhoc,but dont recomend? up to you or pro,just do it.a IP adrress is = internet provider adress code exp:"205.54.54.106"=example only now a port can be any number depends on prossesor and other variables but can be from 1-999999, but very easy to find dont worry i use the "tcp" ports as they are easier and will not leave you or her computer at risk. GOD BLESS YOU FOR CARING YOU ARE WONDERFUL ,ONCE you are set and she is in her room and you cleverly undidher conection,"hope you have cable internet or atleast DSL much easier,and hooked a splice from her computer ,better you have alot of options to do this this is JUST ONE,YOU COULD BUT A WIRE LESS TRANSMITTER IN A OPEN :SERVICE SLOT AND SET YOU COMPUTER TO READ THE "MACHINE ADDRESS CODE" BETTER KNOW AS THE -" MAC " - NUMBER.as she is on live record the whole session of her internet use,NOW HERE IS THE HARD PART" BE HONEST " BE UPFRONT WITH YOUR daughter,AND LET HER KNOW ALL THAT YOU KNOW ,I CAN NOT STRESS ENOUGH,I KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ANGRY WITH THIS REPLY,,I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE IN PHYCOLOGY,AND I AM A PARENT, AND I DONT WANT TO SEE ANOTHER STATISTIC !!!!!!!! THE MAN SHOULD BE REPORTED TO THE POLICE AS SOON AS YOU KNOW HIS SCREEN NAME.AND INTERNET PROVIDER, EXP:MSN,YAHOO,GMAIL,EARTHLINK,PEOPLE PC,COX COMMUNICATIONS,MANY OTHERS,IF USING AIM SOUNDS LIKE SHEIS ON "( AOL )" BUT NOT NESSESARY ANY MORE,FIND OUT THE NAME ,THE ( IP) ADDRESS OF THIS MAN THRU THE INTERNET PROVIDER AND POLICE,:::::: NOW A COMPLEATE ADRESS FOR A COMPUTER LOOKS LIKE THIS : 255.255.255.255.60 = 255 IS RESERVERED FOR GATEWAYS ONLY FOUR FOR YOUR COPUTER ADRESS THE 60= PORT NUMBER,YOU CAN FIND THIS INFO FOR YOUR DAUGHTERS,COMPUTER ,BY GOING TO www.dslreports.com youll be able to get a open port as well there with a diagnostic ,you must do this on her computer while at school,,ABOVE ALL WHEN YOU HAVE INFORMATIO9N BE HONESTM WITH YOUR DAUHGTER,AND LET HER KNOW LOVE IS STRONG AND YOUR WORRIED ,EXPLIAN THE HARD FACTS OF LIFE I KNOW WE ALL WANT TO PROTECXT OUR MOST VALUABLE ASSET OUR FAMILY, """""" PLEASE CHECK WITH YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE AND MAKE SURE SINCE SHE IS A MINOR THAT YOU CAN DO THIS,-----------------------------------------ANOTHER WAY ONCE YOU KNOW WHERE SHE GOES TO TALK YOU CAN DO THE FOLLOWING AND THERE IS NO INVASION OF PRIVACY-----------.BE HONEST THOUGH MAKE A SUCURE PASSWORD "PREFERABLY 12-16 CHARACTERS, AND US ,LOWER CASE,UPPER CASE,LETTERS,NUMBERS AND ONE OR TWO SYMBOLES ,PLEASE WRITE IT DOWN AND PUT IN A SECURE LOCATION HERE WAHT YOU DO .GOTO "START",THEN,CONTROL PANEL,THEN ,INTERNET OPTIONS, THEN THEN GOTO CONTENT "ENABLE THE CONTENT ADVISOR WITH THAT PASSWORD"THEN GOTO SECURITY PUT THE PROGRAMES,,MANS ID AND READ HELP FOLLOW IT ,GOTO SECURITY THEN SET PRIVACY TAB, AS BEING BLOCKED.THEN CONNECTIONS THEN SET YOUR PASSWORD AND ENABLE THE CONTENT ADVISOR,BELIEVE ME YOU HAVE SO MANY TOOLS AT YOUR DESPOSAL TO MAKE SURE IT STOPS A 14 YEAR OLD GIRL SHOULD NOT BE TALKING TO MEN OR BOYS ABOVE 16 IN ANY WAY UNLESS ITS A FAMILY OR CLEARGY,PLEASE BEFORE YOU DO A COMPUTER "TAP" MAKE SURE ITS LEAGEL,IF NOT READ HELP AND START USING WHAT MICROSOFT ALREADY HAS FOR CHILD WEB SURFING AND MESSINGER SAFTY,PLEASE BE CAREFUL ONLY DO WHILE SHE IN SCHOOOL AND THEN BE UP FRONT LET HER KNOW YOU ARE MONITORING HER,IF YOU TELL HER ABOUT SNOOPING THE EMAIL YOUR GOING TO HAVE A ANGRY GIRL,BUT BETTER ANGRY THEN MISSING,SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU SAY FROM THIS DATE FORWARD I WILL BE MOTERING YOU ACTIVITY ON THE COMPUTER,I HEARD THE GIRL 4 STREETS OVER WAS TALKING TO A MAN ON THE INTER NET ,"HINT USE HIS HANDLE" AND THEY CANT FIND HER SHE HAS BEEN MISSING FOR A WEEK, USE WHATS ON COMPUTER READ YOU ONLINE MANUAL AND WRITE TO AND LIVE CHAT WITH MICROSOFT NOBODY KNOWS THERE SOFTWARE BETTER THEN THEM AND THERE TESTERS,I AM ONE OF A FEW THAT CAN DECOMPILE,RECONFIGURE,CHANGE AND REWORK SO IT RUNS BETTER,NO NEEWD FORE THE GOBACK "RESTORE COMMAND, HINT DONT PRINT THE MANUAL OUT ,I HAVE 8 PRINTERS AND 6 TOP LINE PROSSESORS AND THERE MANUAL IS SO LARGE THAT WITH MY SYSTEM IT WOULD TAK 162 HOURS ON 6 PRINTERS AND WELL OVER 25,000 PAGES, BE SMART,HONEST,WITH YOU DAUGHTER AND THE BEST OF LUCK SAFEST WAY IS THRU THE INTERNET PROPERTIES AND ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE,AND A SMALL PROGRAM THATS FREE"FOLDER LOCK" LOCK THE FOLDERS TO HERE CONTACT MAY BE MORE THAN ,FOR THE MAN,AS I HAVE UPTO 18 EMAIL ACCOUNTS 90 GIG OF ONLINE MAIL STORAGE 3 TERABYTES OF WEBSITE AVAILBILITY, PLEASE TAKE ACTION A.S.A.P.AND TELL HER BE HONEST PLEASE VERY IMPORTANT
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Dec 19, 2006 7:51 PM
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I know this is late, but I feel I do indeed have something to add that might help a bit. So here it goes: I went through a situation that was pretty close (if not overly identical) to what you are now facing. My parents used a filtering software that was meant to "protect me" as I was "under age" for most of the web sites (I was a tween or young teen). I was unhappy about the fact that all my friends could use IMs and talk on sites that I was being blocked from. So I did the reasonable thing, tried to see if I could get around it. And that I did. It took me a while but I finally was able to find a way to access what I wanted to. The method used I forget, but the point is that many kids will try to find a way around it. I don't know why, just seems to be what happens. Anyway, I was able to use whatever it was for about a month before I got arrogant and sloppy. My parents found out what I was doing on the computer. They had that knee-jerk reaction and completely banned me from the computer, TV, games, whatever they could think of. My relationship with them plummeted. It was tense for months. It was an on-going battle between my parents and me for a while. But my parents didn't have much of a choice in it. I needed the internet for research and they could only watch over my shoulder for so long before they had other stuff they needed to look into. After a while the relationship was better, but it took a while, well over a year before they could feel comfortable talking about computer usage again. And even then there was tension. The reason I am saying all this is so you can see what might happen. I am not saying that your family is anything like mine. But I know that teens do have a tendency to act and think similarly. The reason I say this is because it could destroy your relationship. The teen may feel embarrassed, ashamed, scared, angry, etc. while you may feel the child in question is untrustworthy. Having those emotions in a relationship could do it much harm. Now, I am not saying to cover it up and ignore. But maybe you should just constantly inform your daughter of what is right and not. Remember, children do like to explore and try out some things. I would not be so worried about looking up web pages. What I would do, however, is inform your daughter about talking to strangers. Just casually say what you believe and start a conversation. After a few days, say that you read about how people were injured and how you hope that she will not conduct herself in such a matter. Be gentle though. Don't push, as that might make her want to do it to in spite. Just enough in a gentle way that she will remember it. Trust me, if you do it like that there is a better chance she will remember. Since you started monitoring her (which I am against by the way) I would, reluctantly, say to continue doing so to ensure that her conversations aren't getting worse. If they are in fact getting more explicit and/or personal that might lead to problems that would need to be addressed. If such a thing does happen, I would recommend that you tell her you heard about a filter/firewall/program to protect the computer from viruses and that you will be installing it on the computer. Also tell her that it can be used to watch what goes on with the computer and you can see im conversations and webpages accessed. Tell her you trust her but it is for her safety and the computer's. That way you give her a way out without actually causing a confrontation. I know what some people might say "This will push her underground." This may be true. But what it does do is make her have to pursue it. No longer will it come to her, she would have to find workarounds. And, hopefully, the work to continue such an act really isn't so great that she would be willing to go to a hot spot just to chat on aim to a random guy. I believe gently going into situations like these a little at a time will be better. And don't over react. Kids will be kids and although they are your own children and it can be scary, remember that you probably did the same thing at their ages (or at least thought about it). -- You win some, you lose some. But in the end, just make sure you beat the crap out of your enemy.
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Nov 16, 2006 9:22 PM
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Karen3, I think Jen makes a good point in a previous post: that confrontation or overreaction isn't good. It only further shuts down parent-child communication when it's most needed. It's hard to say how you should broach the subject without knowing you both, but I don't know how you'd talk with her without telling her first that you were very concerned about the amount of time she was spending online and had installed some monitoring software because of that concern. Maybe tell her you're sorry if she feels that was invading her privacy, but it was for her protection and it's your job to protect her until she's an adult; that you're not going to overreact, but you need to know who she's talking with online and why she's talking about drugs, etc. Jen may be right, that it's just exploration, and you might want to acknowledge that you know that's possible, but it's important for you to know if she's considering using. I hope some of those ideas help, but maybe there are some parenting or child-development experts who could join in here. All best,
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Nov 16, 2006 9:09 PM
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Great perspective, Jen. Thanks for posting,
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Nov 16, 2006 4:15 PM
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> The easiest way to protect our children is to disable > the PC, take away their mobile phones, and stick with > them 24/7. What would you have to do if you had to > get someone you loved off drugs?? Same way. > John oh, and by the way to John, that wont work. She will just find another way to acsess myspace, chatrooms, etc, weather it be at a friends house, another mobile phone, while you are away (she could find where you hid the items), or even accsess it at school. the blocks are very easy to break. ive seen countless people do it. taking away privlages isnt the only answer. it isnt even in the top 3 answers. they will just hate you. and call you a bitch to their friends on AIM after they've found their computer you hid in your underwear drawer. -Jen P.S. my last post was nicer. i just get annoyed when people think that taking away the computer will solve the problem. it wont. trust me. -- Edited by luna101 at 11/16/2006 4:17 PM
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Nov 16, 2006 4:07 PM
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Hey, As being a 14 year old girl myself, and having a myspace, i feel like i have some valued opinion in the matter. I believe that perhaps your daughter is just looking to see what the drugs are and see what people think of them. Or perhaps she is looking online to see if people were dangerously affected by a drug she wanted to try. The internet can be safe, but it also can be potentially dangerous. she could be into drugs and alchohol, and then you might want to talk to her about those things, but make sure not to mension the internet or that you've been spying on her. she'll probably freak. and shut you out of her life altogether. i once wandered into a chat room... usually im not into talking to people im not farmiliar with, but with all the hype i had to see if i was sexually harrased or anything. I was not. There were some people. some from different countries. we talked about Bush, and parents, and all the normal teen stuff. not dangerous at all. no one cared about eachothers name or location, or even in meeting up. we just wanted to talk to new and potentially interesting people. now if you wandered into a specifically stated sexually explict chatroom (yes they do exist in large quantities) then you would be basically asking for trouble. But some teens want the potential danger. some want to actually cyber sex. it all depends on your child. As to AIM chats with older men, i dont know what to say. they could be all fun and games, could be harrasment, could be she wants to cyber weather it be becuase she is exploring (sounds lame i know) or wants to feel needed. in most cases, she probably will not end up doing anything more with these people, but in looking at the AIM chats she has, if they mension any personals, desires to meet up, or suggustions of violence, i know that you should probably talk to your daughter. but again, dont tell her you were spying. it will NOT go down well. at all. 14 year olds like myself want privacy. i myself have a computer in my room and it has made me even more sociable what with participating in chats like these, and talking on AIM and myspace. We want independace, and chances are, your teen is just exploring. but if her attitude towards you changes, if she becomes reclusive, if she is going places without telling you why, you should just try to talk to her. dont make it too much like a lecture becuase that will make her shrug it off as stupid parents. dont try to say you 'understand shes changing' or the like or she will laugh at you saying you dont know anything. try to bring it up in a conversation and try to relate to her with out acting to authorative or confrunting. if she is still unwilling to take you seriously and you see on your 'SpyRecon' that she continues, or the problem gets worse, you should have a onfruntaion with her. if she STILL is acting up, take away privlages and make concequences for her foolishness. on the whole, i say that i have expirience (but i still cant spell). my father, when seeing i spent much time on the computer came in, yelled at me, and attempted to take away my computer. my mother, however, just asked me questions about how myspace worked, is it safe, etc, and told me some dangers, which, truthfully i already knew, but it got thorugh to me much better than dad attepting to pry my iBook laptop from me in the middle of doing my homework on Microsoft Word. I hope this insight and advice (i hope you could call it that) helped, Jen P.S. this is my first post ever so i hope its good!
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Sep 22, 2006 7:00 PM
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This is such a tough, tough situation. Once you start spying on your kid you are walking down a path that is tough to get off. If you find out something you were afraid you might, how can you broach the subject with your child? The question I have for other parents out there is do you think the kids really understand how dangerous these people could be? Having sexy talk with someone they think is a late 20s man is one thing, but would they feel different if they knew or had good reason to believe that the person wasn't just a late 20s man, but also a predator. The prevailing wisdom amongst any teenager (we were all there) is that "it won't happen to me." That's what we have to grapple with every day. I'm so sorry you had to find out this information about your daughter in this way. Your challenge is most assuredly to have an open and honest conversation with your child which is neither accusatory nor threatening, else you risk driving the behavior further underground. I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Sep 22, 2006 5:28 PM
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There is no need to buy software to spy. I have a 13 year old daughter whom I became suspisious of during extensive moodswings. I registered as a 14 year old boy and viewed her profile. Scary?????? I then read comments posted to her. Then, by viewing the profiles of the people she talkes to and read comments posted by her to them, you can read what she says. The easiest way to protect our children is to disable the PC, take away their mobile phones, and stick with them 24/7. What would you have to do if you had to get someone you loved off drugs?? Same way. John
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Sep 22, 2006 1:26 PM
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Zeyana, since you mentioned working with the police, we thought it might be interesting to everybody here to get a police officer's perspective on the risks involved in this activity. So I emailed a copy of this post to Detective Frank Dannahey who's on our advisory board and has been a youth officer in the Rocky Hill, Ct., police department for 15 years (he also appeared on NBC's Dateline with three teens and their moms last spring). Here's Frank:
"Wow!! Here’s a teen that might potentially put herself and/or friends in danger. I would tell any teen that the more risks YOU take online, the more risk you have of becoming victimized by adults online. Most criminals who use the Internet to find victims for the purpose of sexual assault or worse usually have a level of cooperation from the potential victim. The least contact you have with persons you don’t know, the less risk you have of being victimized. When you engage unknown adults in a sexual way online, you dramatically increase your risk for sexual victimization. Most of the online horror stories that you see in the media start out with the potential victim being cooperative online. No one gets up in the morning saying 'gee, I think I’ll be the victim of a crime today.' Very often it’s the victim’s poor choices that often contribute to them being victimized. Would you fly in an airplane if the pilot said 'we have 2 engines but one of them doesn’t work very well'? In the same manner, most online experiences are safe, but those that turn tragic often happen because of unnecessary risk-taking on the part of the victim. "When you take a gift from someone for engaging in cybersex with them, it usually leads to more requests. Often times the requests get more involved such as doing a webcam show or agreeing to meet in person. Plain and simple, if you are doing sexual things online for adults in exchange for 'gifts' you are really engaging in online prostitution. "Your reputation is something that should be very important to you. What if your friends or other students found out what you were doing online? How would they feel about you then? What would a boyfriend think about you doing that kind of activity or how about your parents? If you were at a family event and an adult started engaging you in a conversation in a sexual way how would you feel about it? Even though you may feel very anonymous online, you're not as anonymous as you think. If you wouldn’t feel comfortable doing a behavior in public, don’t do it online."
As for calling the police about sexual victimization, there's a lot involved, and law enforcement has to gather evidence carefully in order to prosecute - it's not a simple matter of giving them an address, as many people know. Here's just a bit of what Frank said: "The police would never encourage a teen to seek out adults online that engage minors in sexual activity. That’s why the police and federal law enforcement officials engage in undercover operations online. When the police do online undercover work, there are many guidelines and regulations that they must follow. It is important not to entice individuals into behavior that they would not engage in on their own (entrapment). Law enforcement needs to document every conversation and exchange that takes place."
I hope people found this as informative as I did.
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Sep 22, 2006 9:56 AM
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While it is a good idea to notify police or the cybertipline when you encounter potential sexual predators online, it's not a good to interact with them. Seems like you're unnecessarily flirting with danger. Why take the chance? Cops have ways of dealing with people like that and they're the ones who should handle it. As per getting "items" for interacting this pedophiles, that's also a very bad idea. In a sense, you're selling yourself which is not something er think you want to doing. Anne and Larry Co-admins BlogSafety.com -- Larry Co-director BlogSafety.com
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Zeyana
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Sep 22, 2006 9:15 AM
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Well I understand her needs it is fun to look up porn and have cyber sex with older men. They know what they are doing and if you are on certain websites you can get items from doing so it is actually very fun. But I am also 14 years old and enjoy it very much but most of the time me and my friends find out where they live and then send the police after them.
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Sep 19, 2006 8:51 AM
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As a mom of two young children I am also very concerned about internet safety. Although my children have limited access to the internet you never know what is going to pop up on your screen. I recently read an article that has some scary but useful information, http://www.connectwithkids.com/tipsheet/2006/272_mar15/thisweek/060615_predators.shtml. I hope this is useful to you and your daughter.
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Re: Shocked after spying on my daughter’s emails and Myspace account.
Sep 17, 2006 10:01 PM
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fuzzybutton, I don't have a doubt in my mind that you're perfectly safe with Net access in your room. But I don't think it's a good idea for all teens, particularly uncommunicative young people (especially younger teens) who are at-risk in real life and don't have an open relationship with their parents.
Anne
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