The Attorneys General of Connecticut and North Carolina have proposed that MySpace ban users under 16. What do you think of that idea?
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HelenKong
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Feb 3, 2010 5:51 PM
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From what i think, i don't think Social networks ban users under 16 but 15 below. Why 15 below? Most of the teenagers in the age between 13 to 15 have high curiosity about their surrounding especially their body structure. Many might already have their 1st experience in ML by knowing anonymous from social networks who provide such services. It happened in many countries. Including mine. Other than that issue, Teenagers have the reaction of being "nasty" by listening to parents' advices and so. The more you restrict them, the more the bounce back it will be.
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jan 29, 2010 6:16 PM
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But seriously, it just means banning this forum too. Forums, like these, are social networking sites too. Not just facebook or myspace or twitter or something. But why 16? Why not 17, or 18? Why not 15, even?
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Feb 7, 2008 6:07 PM
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yes
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jul 13, 2006 12:19 AM
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No. The kids are looking for friends. If you kick them out of SN, they will find some other places to hang out, probably more destructive. Simply encourage the SN to protect them more.
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jbcoops
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jul 7, 2006 7:49 PM
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Converge magazine (a free subscription btw) has an article on Safe Networking Sites, which include a handful. I'm familiar with Whyville, but haven't been to the couple of others listed. There *should* be a more complete list floating around the Net somewhere, don't you think, of safe sites for kids?
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Larry
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jul 7, 2006 7:12 AM
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Thanks for your comments and pointing us toward both the TilaTequila site and the one that raises concerns about her. I can see how parents of young children wouldn't want kids on either site. I noticed, for example, that the counter site -- which is concerned about Tila's explicit content has some content issues of its own. For example, on the page where the authors say "We believe that sex should not sell or at least not all the time ... " There were, when I checked, multiple ads about sex stimulants. These ads were served up by Geocities and are subject to change but are an example of how sexuality can creep even onto sites that warn us of sexuality.
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jul 7, 2006 3:45 AM
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It's hard for social networks to ban users younger than 16 for the fact that they could lie about their age. Take Myspace for example. That is the most popular and used site among teens and adults. They don't have really good rules and they dont keep teens 15 and under all that safe. Even though those 16 and older can't view their profile, it takes a matter of changing your age to 15 or younger to view that profile. How do you think all those pedophiles are finding these young kids on that site? Also, for parents who have teens and preteens who go online. You should check the history as soon as they get offline. If you find they have a Myspace profile, you need to talk to them because this is what they are easily looking at: http://www.myspace.com/tilatequila She talks about doing drugs, having a lot of annoymous sex, and she takes very provocative pictures of herself. Girls will look up to that as how they need to be in order to get guys to drool over them and guys will see that women don't need to be respected at all. If you don't like the content you see on there, here is a website with a petition to take her profile off of Myspace and try to better the Myspace community. http://www.truth-of-tila.tk/
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Larry
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jul 7, 2006 12:08 AM
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Interesting idea though I would worry that it might not be reliable in all cases. Seems to me that if we were to do age verification one solution would be to have Departments of Motor Vehicles issue IDs. Of course, that brings up all sorts of issues and might be considered a path towards a national ID which is quite controversial. Still, I'm not at all convinced that people under 16 should be banned from social networks. Anne and I attended an all-day session in DC recently where a couple of Attorneys General suggested this. What convinced me that it's a bad idea was a comment from the head of a suicide prevention group who pointed out that MySpace is the largest sources of referrals of high-risk kids to his hotline. Could it be that social networks are actually SAVING lives?
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jul 6, 2006 11:07 AM
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Validating that a child is a child. I saw an interesting solution to that not too long ago on a website to which I can't remember the name. it was publicly open, similar to many pages like myspace.com, and allowed users to submit pictures (again similar to myspace and other sites) but as a way to verify identity, they asked users to submit a picture with a sign stating their {username @ the website} so that it would be virtually impossible to say that this person was anybody other than who the sign said. I already posted this in another topic, which seems to have died already. Thanks For Listening in A Teen
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jul 4, 2006 4:38 AM
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Banned No... Ban Cars, Footballs and Sticks too! Kids need to learn by experience. They need to be able to explore the boundaries of life and experience negatives in order to learn from their mistakes. What matters here is the environment in which the mistakes are made. Lets say for example that a child was to give out their contact details. In the global forums of myspace and bebo this could be costly. If a child gives out contact details and is then educated why not to do it, then SAVVY is directed towards the those who need to know. If this happens to be inside of a trusted community then the risk's are eradicated. Their are sites out there that are providing safe online environments for children. Sites such as http://www.superclubsplus.com/ and http://www.goldstarcafe.net/ offer young people a safe & mediated environment to discuss issues important to them and are validated through the school system. What needs to be addressed is the certainty that a child is a child. Validation is such a complicated issue as there is so much to consider. Maybe technology can find a solution but ultimately something has to be done. Any Suggestions welcomed?
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jun 30, 2006 6:12 AM
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I'm based in the UK and came across this forum. I thought you might like to get a view point from an overseas party as this is a commonly asked question in the uk. I think that social networks that abide to a system that can guarantee safety for under 18's should be able to admit children onto their site/s. There should be a group that holds responsibility to award these sites a certification to prove that they have installed as much safety precaution as possible in these changing times. There should be an idiots guide for both parents and children of which the parent/s have to submit their details on the registration form for their children. As long as children are supervised and given a time allowance, they should be safe. Parents should be given lessons on how to check the history of their childrens sessions on the net. I could go on but i think enough said. It all boils down to understanding what the social networks are about and what their policies are for under age users. (This was edited by an admin ONLY to change from all upper case to lower and upper case to make it easier to read. Content was not altered) -- Edited by BlogSafety at 06/30/2006 8:05 AM
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jun 29, 2006 11:19 PM
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I missed this news from my own state (CT). CT and NC are then proposing that MySpace.com enforce age verification for users in their states. If this actually came into their state law, and was enforceable, my guess is that MySpace would put up banners warning people under 16 from CT and NC that they were violating their state laws, and stating that they proceed at their own risk. Or they'd require CT and NC residents to digitally sign a statement saying they are 16 or older. MySpace is not a CT or NC company, so it's difficult for the states to require anything of the company. Aside from that -- I really think online activity for teens is ideally "regulated" through an agreement between the parents and their teens. Some 14 year olds are much more mature and responsible than some 18 year olds.
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jun 29, 2006 10:43 PM
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Good points Larry, and keeping the tone serious (for a change), my previous sarcasm points to the ridiculous reactionary politics being played here. As friends on MySpace I have two teens, one who has created a group against poverty, the other against genocide. These politically active kids are looking to network with other kids. Yes, there are other sites for this, but the sheer overwhelming numbers of MySpace point to the fact that many positives may erase negatives. Preventing suicides, Columbine copycats (several cases have happened at MySpace), and even lesser events such as cyberbullying, fraud, etc. All of these things I think serve positive social purposes. Now all we need is for the media to wake up and recognize that focusing almost exclusively on negative impacts of MySpace in particular and the Net in general do much more harm than good. Sorry there's no humor in this post... I'll try harder next time.
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Larry
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jun 29, 2006 9:36 PM
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On a more serious angle to your accidents in the bathroom joke -- Anne and I were recently at an event where a couple of attorneys general were talking about banning kids under 16 years old from social networking. A person in the audience works at a suicide prevention program and made the point that MySpace is now their biggest source of referrals. No one has numbers, but wouldn't it be interesting if it turned out that MySpace saves more kids from suicide than who are molested as a result of being online. I would not be surprised if that turned out to be the case. So, could keeping kids off MySpace wind up having tragic unintended consequences?
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jbcoops
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Re: Should social networks ban users under 16?
Jun 29, 2006 9:03 PM
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Statistically accidents in the bathroom are 1500 times more likely to happen than being abducted by an online predator. For that reason I have banned baths and showers in my house, and have instituted a "Don't Ask Don't Smell" policy which also has zero tolerance for body odor. Instituting this unfunded mandate means that we can safely co-exist without worrying about offending anyone. Now all I have to do is build a giant wall between my neighbors and myself to keep them from peering at us when we fertilize our lawn.
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